It’s been a stereotype for at least the last 50 years. Why has this never changed? Why has organized labor not had a substantial effect for such an essential part of the workforce?

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    Agree with most of the other commentary I would say this isn’t super universal. The pay gap has gotten less egregious in states like New Jersey where you can make a relatively comfortable living when you factor in the benefits received compared to private sector workers (i.e. real pensions and good healthcare)

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    Not raising the education of the public is an easy control method and also easily keeps up the myth of the USA being such a great country while completely obviously contradicting itself.

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    The GOP is fully to blame.

    They sell the American public on the idea that any taxes are bad, no matter what they are meant to fund. When they are in power they cut public services, give tax breaks to corporations, and schedule tax raises to occur when they’re out of power.

    When they aren’t in power they yell about taxes nonstop to make sure democrats are too scared to re-fund them, so they don’t get voted out.

    Cycle after cycle, and now there’s no money to give the teachers.

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      They’ve conditioned people to be so against taxes that you have a significant portion of the public saying things like, “why should my taxes fund public schools if my children graduated 20 years ago?”

      This country is full of rotten people.

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      There’s also the feedback loop where they point at the broken underfunded public services and are like “see how shit public services are? They’re a waste of taxes. We could gut them to save you money”

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    All the other answers are correct.

    Republicans / conservatives in the US are a poison. Delusional, evil. Either opportunist pieces of shit or certifiably the dumbest people in the world.

    Their existence is a net negative, period, full stop. Their non-existence…well, take that as you will.

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    George Carlin said it best. We want dumb happy obedient workers. Smart enough to runthe machines, but not smart enough to realize how badly they’re getting fucked by the system. So don’t count on the schools to do much more than basic math, and basic skills. Because what helps the elite class screws over the working class. It’s best to start screwing them in kindergarten. Teach them the pledge of allegence, so they feel endebted to our system, and keep them there for their entire lives.

    Paraphrasing here, but that’s the jist of a routine he had in the 90s. The important thing to note is that Carlin was NOT a time traveler. He didn’t predict the future. It’s just that we as a society have had the same problems for 100 years, and we never fixed our shit.

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      Maybe because 98.1% keep voting for either evil or the lesser evil; but almost none of them vote for the good like Nader?

      “Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don’t fall out of the sky. They don’t pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses, and American universities - and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It’s what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, […] you’re going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain’t going to do any good; you’re just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it’s not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here… like, the public.” – George Carlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBrbXOmnW70

      “It is infinitely better to vote for freedom and fail than to vote for slavery and succeed.” - Eugene V. Debs, Appeal to Reason, 1900-10-13

      “Wage-labor is but a name; wage-slavery is the fact.” - Eugene V. Debs, The Socialist Party and the Working Class 1904-09-01

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        Please show me one time in the past 50 years that a third party candidate in the US helped the Left win an election.

        The GOP constantly funds and pushes for the Greens and Libertarians because they know those candidates sap the Dems.

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    Knowing what you’re talking about is considered elitist by most Americans. Under-funding education is effectively a DEI program for idiots.

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    In the US, public schools are funded by the local tax base. If the local tax base is broke as fuck, their services will be broke as fuck. That means you’ve got crumbling sewer systems to worry about more than having well paid teachers.

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    Because (public) education isn’t valued and we insist on the idiotic practice of funding schools primarily through local property taxes.

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    There aren’t always. There are plenty of places that pay teachers well. The problem is that the qualifications for a school that pays really well are pretty much the same as the qualifications for a school that doesn’t. Schools that pay well have 1,000 applications and never any vacancies, so new teachers have a hard time finding a well paying job. Public school employee salaries are public information, so you can actually look them up.

    Average teacher salaries in Massachusetts dont look bad to me. https://profiles.doe.mass.edu/statereport/teachersalaries.aspx

    Obviously, it’s not universal.

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    Why has organized labor not had a substantial effect…

    Organized labor is working about as well here as funding public schools. Which is to say, not very well at all.