• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.

    Opening in the sense that there’s been over a decade of accusations and still no actual evidence of even a single death, or indeed any physical evidence at all, with the excuse that it’s all going on in secret. So, the opposite of open.

    Israel couldn’t hide genocide in Gaza despite having it completely locked down and the tacit support of the media, but apparently China is doing it on an even bigger scale in a place people can freely travel to.

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      You keep saying that there is no evidence does not make it true. Birth rates plummeted by as much as 60% with China providing IUDs and sterilization.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/12/chinese-uyghur-policy-causes-unprecedented-fall-in-xinjiang-birthrates

      I am absolutely not saying that what China has done is anything close to Israel and the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. Instead it is very similar to the genocide the US did with Puerto Rico.

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        1 day ago

        I said no physical evidence. Not half decade old number fudging from right wing military industrial think tanks like the Australian Strategic Policy Institute.

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          I am sure if you ignore numerous reports, video and photographic evidence, countless interviews, and China’s own admissions then there is no evidence.

          At this point I am just going to chalk it up to willful ignorance and your campism as I am very familiar with your denialism and propaganda at this point.

          Edit: I did look up information again and it appears China has made some groundwork in reducing internment because their genocide was exposed.

          https://www.icij.org/investigations/china-cables/beijings-backtrack-on-xinjiang-detention-camps-spurred-by-icij-investigation-research-finds/

          https://www.ushmm.org/genocide-prevention/countries/china/report-eight-years-on-chinas-repression-of-the-uyghurs-remains-dire

          Good for them I guess

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            21 hours ago

            I am sure if you ignore numerous reports, video and photographic evidence, countless interviews, and China’s own admissions then there is no evidence.

            Please present this “video and photographic evidence of genocide” and “China admitting it’s committing genocide” or I’m just going to retain my conclusion that you are lying

            At this point I am just going to chalk it up to willful ignorance and your campism as I am very familiar with your denialism and propaganda at this point.

            This is another way you can tell it’s bullshit: the people pushing it always have to fall back to personal insults against anyone pointing out the lack of evidence.

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              19 hours ago

              https://youtu.be/wM1DjkPWtj0

              Smoking gun with orders to eradicated Islam, no surprise as the current genocidal government has always attempted to suppress religion to maintain control. You defense of this oligarchies decision to eliminate a people is noted.

              https://www.hrw.org/legacy/campaigns/china-98/religion.htm

              China is known for its tight control of religion especially it actions of erasing worship like Tibert. You defense of this persecution is noted.

              https://youtu.be/WmId2ZP3h0c

              Deception, lies, cultural indoctrination, internment under the guise of eduction, it is all there. Exactly what the US and Canada did to the Natives by kidnapping them. You defense of genocide is noted.

              https://ig.ft.com/china-mosques/

              Erasure of culture, common tactics of those who are committing genocide. Just another visual admission of the erasure of a people because of a rulers whim. You defense of cultural erasure is noted.

              https://youtu.be/1huINiEca24

              Chinese official admit the goals and it is to prevent extremism. In order to do this they committ to a genocide. This is pure imperialism arguing that they are being educated while they are beaten, raped, and electrocuted. You defense of human abuses is noted.

              You simply cannot control people when you create these unequal power imbalances. Even the best intentions, which these are clearly not, will be perverted by human nature. You inability to see this is noted.

              Concentration camps confirmed, cultural erasure, and a complete stop in population growth. Your denial of what the Chinese government admits to is noted.

              It is clear you are disingenuous and trolling as you have done this many times to other users before. You are abusive and it is disgusting.

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                19 hours ago

                I didn’t ask for YouTube videos and gish gallop, I asked you please present this “video and photographic evidence of genocide” and “China admitting it’s committing genocide” or I’m just going to retain my conclusion that you are lying.

                Also lol at your endless “is noted” like you’re larping as McCarthy