With exceptions in cases like when a couple loses a child

Edit: in a scenario where everything is good. No wars, no famine.

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    Women are the ones being either forced to birth two children or forced to abort to stay at two children.

    That you didn’t even think about how a policy around number of children allowed affects women is astounding.

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      That you didn’t even think about how a policy around number of children allowed affects women is astounding

      If you neuter men, it really doesn’t. It’s not that astounding

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            Alternatively, it’s just as cruel to control men’s bodies and force vasectomies.

            It’s just a terrible question, dude. Not forbidden, but yeah, not a lovely thought to entertain.

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              Annnnd I said it wasn’t. Didn’t I? Didn’t support it.

              The point of this is, I’m not trying to control women just because I asked a question about the two child policy. Didn’t support it, just asked an opinion. How come you’re sooooo intent on twisting my words and finding Ill in everything I say?

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                I just find the question distasteful. I didn’t say you’re trying to control women, the question is fundamentally about controlling women.

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                  Why?

                  Didn’t we just argue about neutering men?

                  If it’s about controlling anyone, it’s about controlling everyone. Which means it’s not about controlling women. Stop using that sentence like a buzzword. That’s pretty disgusting.

                  And btw, a question can have multiple answers. You ask questions because you don’t know some answers. If there was an answer to this question other than those I know, I might learn it by asking here. It can trigger discussions from which I might learn more on the topic. It is possible that there is an answer which is actually good and I don’t know about it. THAT’S why you ask questions.

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                    There are no good answers when it comes to population control in this way. It will always involve harming people.

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                And I said in another comment that it is similarly cruel to force vasectomies and control men’s bodies.

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                  I also replied that it was not the point. The point is you’re accusing the question of being about controlling women. Which it isn’t. Why do you keep forgetting things we already discussed and going back to it?

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                    Any population control question is going to be in bad taste.

                    I’m not the only person to have a bad reaction to this question and you know it.

                    There are no good answers for population control that doesn’t include torturing humans.