From my view the original comment has been replaced with “deleted by creator”. If a user deletes a comment in Lemmy 0.18.5 then it and all its child comments are removed from public view. Though @AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works will still see their own comment in the comment history section of their user profile. I think that this behavior will change when we upgrade to 0.19x, and non-admin users will see “deleted by creator” as well.
There appears to be something else going on, too. If you view the post from lemmy.ca or literature.cafe (both of which are on Lemmy 0.19.1) the original comment is still there. It’s like those instances never got the memo that the comment was deleted. I can only assume this is related to the ongoing federation issues in Lemmy 0.19.x?
The only comment I deleted was the one hanging off of https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 (which was basically me pointing out the same thing I later replied in this thread about, the comment not showing up). Which makes sense, because it doesn’t show up.
If I had deleted https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 itself, you should not be able to see it. But you can, and anyone can. What they can’t do is see it from the thread discussion itself.
And no, the comment I actually did delete does not show in my history … because I deleted it.
kersploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying, so it’s all cleared up now.
This exact thing happened to me at Lemmy world and I brought it up in their main support. I mentioned that they weren’t acting straight forward and then the admins started trolling me. There’s something in the software that lets you do this, at least in Lemmy world, or they’ve figured out how. I’m now losing faith in lemmy which seems to be their intent. I like the idea of it, but this messing with the software to troll or silence people isn’t great.
That’s not the same thing, kerploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying. I’ll update the comment.
But I know what you mean. The modlog hardly matters if the interface is so non-intuitive that you can’t easily tell what has happened. What you are describing could be due to federation synchronization issues, I’ve been noticing a lot of those lately. Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely at least one top lemmy.world admin who is still in the team and is an asshole who will happily make shit up while sweeping problems they created under the rug, but lemmy is also buggy enough on its own, it seems.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely at least one top lemmy.world admin who is still in the team and is an asshole who will happily make shit up while sweeping problems they created under the rug, but lemmy is also buggy enough on its own, it seems.
No, it wasn’t federation issues. I can see why you think that and I wish it were that. I didn’t take screenshots because I thought we were away from the old place, but I could have proven it. They’re EEEing through lemmy world and I hope ruud isn’t in on it. They’ve figured out how to silence people with the most used instance. It makes me wonder how many have already left because of them, I’m thinking of leaving myself.
Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised, it goes hand in hand with my experience and other’s experience with them. If Ruud isn’t in on it, he sure is an expert about keeping quiet about it and leaving it to those responsible. But do take pictures and specially web.archives, which can’t really be faked, and just keep the link to it saved somewhere.
Little else that can be done about it, I tried to get the instance he made false allegations in involved because he had apparently linked to CP and CSAM content as proof, but the SFW “No porn” instance he made the accusations in (yes, he used another alt to potentially put another competing instance in trouble) didn’t even seem to care about all the NSFW links that were potential links to pedophilia themselves, so I would say the degree of impassiveness is pervasive, hypocritically so, which is odd for a social network alternative that tries to sell itself as an alternative to the abuses in other social networks. Took evidence, reported the claims of CP and CSAM to the appropriate authorities, saved the ticket numbers, and moved on. Maybe there is something one could do, since it’s clear who it is and libel, abuse of authority, and making false allegations do seem like things that would be prosecuted, but the cost of going the legal route would probably be a lot more than any compensation or consequence they could get as a result.
That’s disappointing to hear. I’m wondering if they’re just reddit or meta in disguise practicing the eee early. There are so many people over there that wouldn’t know to check if their posts are being removed. It could just be trolls fucking with people to be the number one instance and then sell it, who the fuck knows. I really like this instance, but I’m almost positive lemmy.world users are being shown what world decides they want shown. Whatever, I’ll just hang here at sh.itjust.works and see how it goes, the instance owner seems like they’re listening to the users.
Asked our lovely admins!
From my view the original comment has been replaced with “deleted by creator”. If a user deletes a comment in Lemmy 0.18.5 then it and all its child comments are removed from public view. Though @AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works will still see their own comment in the comment history section of their user profile. I think that this behavior will change when we upgrade to 0.19x, and non-admin users will see “deleted by creator” as well.
There appears to be something else going on, too. If you view the post from lemmy.ca or literature.cafe (both of which are on Lemmy 0.19.1) the original comment is still there. It’s like those instances never got the memo that the comment was deleted. I can only assume this is related to the ongoing federation issues in Lemmy 0.19.x?
The only comment I deleted was the one hanging off of https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 (which was basically me pointing out the same thing I later replied in this thread about, the comment not showing up). Which makes sense, because it doesn’t show up.
If I had deleted https://sh.itjust.works/comment/6657926 itself, you should not be able to see it. But you can, and anyone can. What they can’t do is see it from the thread discussion itself.
And no, the comment I actually did delete does not show in my history … because I deleted it.
kersploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying, so it’s all cleared up now.
This exact thing happened to me at Lemmy world and I brought it up in their main support. I mentioned that they weren’t acting straight forward and then the admins started trolling me. There’s something in the software that lets you do this, at least in Lemmy world, or they’ve figured out how. I’m now losing faith in lemmy which seems to be their intent. I like the idea of it, but this messing with the software to troll or silence people isn’t great.
That’s not the same thing, kerploosh dug around and found that I had responded to a top level comment and not to the thread directly, and this comment was removed but also prevented the comments hanging from it from displaying. I’ll update the comment.
But I know what you mean. The modlog hardly matters if the interface is so non-intuitive that you can’t easily tell what has happened. What you are describing could be due to federation synchronization issues, I’ve been noticing a lot of those lately. Don’t get me wrong, there’s definitely at least one top lemmy.world admin who is still in the team and is an asshole who will happily make shit up while sweeping problems they created under the rug, but lemmy is also buggy enough on its own, it seems.
No, it wasn’t federation issues. I can see why you think that and I wish it were that. I didn’t take screenshots because I thought we were away from the old place, but I could have proven it. They’re EEEing through lemmy world and I hope ruud isn’t in on it. They’ve figured out how to silence people with the most used instance. It makes me wonder how many have already left because of them, I’m thinking of leaving myself.
Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised, it goes hand in hand with my experience and other’s experience with them. If Ruud isn’t in on it, he sure is an expert about keeping quiet about it and leaving it to those responsible. But do take pictures and specially web.archives, which can’t really be faked, and just keep the link to it saved somewhere.
Little else that can be done about it, I tried to get the instance he made false allegations in involved because he had apparently linked to CP and CSAM content as proof, but the SFW “No porn” instance he made the accusations in (yes, he used another alt to potentially put another competing instance in trouble) didn’t even seem to care about all the NSFW links that were potential links to pedophilia themselves, so I would say the degree of impassiveness is pervasive, hypocritically so, which is odd for a social network alternative that tries to sell itself as an alternative to the abuses in other social networks. Took evidence, reported the claims of CP and CSAM to the appropriate authorities, saved the ticket numbers, and moved on. Maybe there is something one could do, since it’s clear who it is and libel, abuse of authority, and making false allegations do seem like things that would be prosecuted, but the cost of going the legal route would probably be a lot more than any compensation or consequence they could get as a result.
That’s disappointing to hear. I’m wondering if they’re just reddit or meta in disguise practicing the eee early. There are so many people over there that wouldn’t know to check if their posts are being removed. It could just be trolls fucking with people to be the number one instance and then sell it, who the fuck knows. I really like this instance, but I’m almost positive lemmy.world users are being shown what world decides they want shown. Whatever, I’ll just hang here at sh.itjust.works and see how it goes, the instance owner seems like they’re listening to the users.