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Adding to the mountain of evidence that Israel is engaged in a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip, Al Jazeera on Thursday aired footage of what the news outlet reported was an Israeli drone targeting four Palestinians in Khan Younis last month.
Those killed by the unmanned aerial vehicle in the rubble of the southern Gaza city appear to be unarmed teenagers or young men. According to a translation of the coverage, they were not identified in the reporting.
Tariq Kenney-Shawa, Al-Shabaka’s U.S. policy fellow, said: “This is among the worst footage I’ve seen. Not only were these boys clearly unarmed and present no threat whatsoever, but they were struck multiple times even after stumbling/crawling away. There is no way they could have been considered combatants. This is unreal.”
Israel is killing everyone who lives in Gaza so they can take their land
I’m not trying to be dense here, but is there a better way to conquer and take land? If taking the land is the strategic objective, how else should they proceed other than to clear it off its current populace?
If that’s their goal, aren’t they progressing rather slowly? Gaza’s population is growing, not diminishing.
Yeah that’s a bit hyperbolic. They just want to force them out. Just a little ethnic cleansing.
No no no they just want to kill Hamas. If they kill everyone they see, then chances are they will eventually kill all Hamas as well. /s
Yeah, that’s certainly easier to imagine.
Gazas population isn’t currently growing, over 32,000 Palestinians have been killed since October
“Intent to destroy in part or whole”. Number doesn’t matter, and consequently neither does not keeping up with population growth it’s still genocide.
Israel was founded on Settler Colonialism and ethnic cleansing, both fundamental to Zionism
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948 culminating to Plan Dalet in 1948, more details here.
You can learn more in the Apartheid Reports
Amnesty International Report
Human Rights Watch Report
B’TSelem Report with quick Explainer
Then they are doing a shit job, considering almost 2 million of them remains. Either that or that’s not the goal.
Eradicating 1.5%, more than 3% injured of the population of Gaza, destroying more than 35% of the civilian buildings in Gaza, man-made starvation. And now a planned assault on Rafah, where a big chunk of the population is living in nightmarish conditions. Is this what you call little?
And believe me the actual number of the casualties is much bigger, considering that there isn’t an independent verification of the direct and indirect casualties. I am sure far rights in Israel are elated.
Genocide is not the goal, but we have been able to accurately predict Israel’s next action every step of the way by simply looking at the script for what a genocidal regime would do. But genocide is not Israel’s goal. It just looks that way. Maybe a weird coincidence.
Why should I believe you or anyone, and not people who are on the ground there. We hear aid is provided, we hear aid is taken away from civilians by Hamas beating people, we hear people selling aid packages to others civilians. We hear all sorts of things. But all you people do is ignore whatever narrative you don’t like and focus on one thing. By that measure you can say USA is killing innocent civilians when they dropped that aid package which crushed some of them.
Which of these potentially terrible things negates what has been done to the people of Gaza? The destruction of their infrastructure - housing, universities, hospitals. The killing of civilians. The living conditions. The starvation.
So there is some, but not nearly enough aid. So some bad actors are taking advantage of the unimaginably fucked up situation there. How does that change the fact that Israel is at best using collective punishment (a war crime) and at worst committing genocide?
You don’t have to believe me, but I’m happy to show my work:
The state of Israel has always rejected the one-state solution and the right-of-return. (It makes political sense, as the Jews would be outnumbered in their own state in a few decades.) It has also rejected or sabotaged a two-state solution by expanding settlements, a process which has ramped up in recent months, so there’s nowhere for a second state to exist. Thus, the people of Palestine cannot live in Israel, and they cannot live in Palestine. No other nations would take that many refugees, so they also cannot leave. The, uhh, remaining solution is to kill them, and the IDF feels no compunction about doing exactly that. For decades, genocide hasn’t been the avowed goal of the state of Israel, just the inescapable conclusion of a cruel logic.
That brings us up to last October. So what would a genocidal regime do in Israel’s place, if it wanted to exterminate a group of people with enough plausible deniability to avoid triggering intervention by the rest of the world? Cut off incoming food, water, and energy? Check, Israel has done that. Contaminate the groundwater? Check. Destroy the energy, sanitary, and transportation infrastructure? Check. Render civilian homes destroyed or unlivable, and destroy businesses? Check. Destroy the health care system? Check. Drive the population toward the border with progressive waves of attacks? Gaza City -> Khan Younis -> Rafah, check.
And all of this, after several Israeli government officials stated explicitly that the goal is, at least, ethnic cleansing.
Hitler didn’t eradicate the Jewish people. Are you saying that means he wasn’t actually trying?
Nope. Am saying that your comment is wrong. If Israel was trying to do systematic destruction number of deaths would be far higher in such densely populated area. And it’s not.
Oh well it’s ok then I guess, they haven’t built gas chambers so it’s not efficient. Two missiles for 4 people really isn’t cost-effective, I see what you mean.
In your opinion, how efficient does it have to be before they’re trying to “systematically destroy” Palestine?
Gaza isn’t large. You could legitimately destroy 90% of standing structures with 10-20k tomahawk-esque missiles. You could like do the same thing with 5-10x the number of artillery shells.
If the bombs a bullets don’t get them the famine certainly will.