This isn’t exactly where this belongs so feel free to delete this. I’m mildly infuriated there is no usable alternative to Amazon.com. I’m more than willing to buy products elsewhere, but it’s so easy to default to Amazon. Please help.

  • Death_Equity@lemmy.worldEnglish
    822·
    5 天前

    No.

    Amazon is what it is because it creates an easier path for America to buy cheap, as Walmart and McDonald’s has done before to great microscopic economic success, due to the failures of our economic paradigm that shrinks wages and pushes manufacturing offshore for corporate profit.

    We need higher wages, which create higher prices, which corrects for the misdeeds of our economic exploitation of foreign economies.

    We have offloaded our economic burden onto other poorer nations, and that needs to stop. Pay a living wage and accept the higher cost at lower profits. Doing otherwise is an economic ouroboros that only swallows the easy part at the sake of the whole in the name of kicking an inflationary can down the road so that yachts can grow larger as the foundation of this country in undermined for icarian profits.

    Fuck your CEO, pay us so they can pay us something and they can have less than everything, so they can keep from having nothing less than more than we can achieve through reluctant violence.

    • SouthEndSunset@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      5 天前

      I wish it’d had stayed in the USA, Amazon has upset economies in other countries too.

      They’re also shit to work for.

      The one I worked at I heard a spoiled rich manager laughing about how “Amazon wont pay a living wage due to its great relationship with the local community”.

      Edit; i worded the first sentence badly. I dont want Amazon inflicted upon anyone.

      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
        11·
        5 天前

        “Amazon wont pay a living wage due to its great relationship with the local community”.

        So, taken by a normal person, not aquainted with corpo speak… that is some astounding anti-logic.

        But if you know a bit of corpo, what that actually means is something like:

        We have the local city government by the balls, greatly overexagerated the economic benefit our warehouse would bring to the city, got them to subsidize our construction costs, relax zoning laws or fees, change tax laws or give us a special carve out so that we pay less than if anyone else tried to build a warehouse here…

        … and now if the city gov goes for policies/laws we don’t like, we’ll just shut down this location, I’ll go work the same job somewhere else, everyone else is unemployed, and then we’ll tell the media that’s because of the city government, and they’ll likely lose their elected positions.

        • SouthEndSunset@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          5 天前

          Thank you for explaining, i knew enough to know that this was some clever wording to avoid paying people properly, but not enough to know the depth or implications. This should really be put about more, cause as it stands people say “isnt it great that Amazon invest in the local road network” or provide computers for schools, or whatever the latest one is…soon theyll be saying “isnt it great that Amazon provide housing”.

          • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.zipEnglish
            5·
            4 天前

            The even shorter, more direct version is:

            ‘Local community’ actually means ‘Official representatives of the local community.’

            EDIT: And ‘great relationship’ means ‘we do business with whatever entity regularly, and that business we do is more advantageous to us than it is to them’.

            … Also… I’m in America so… maybe this is somehow different in various Euro countries, but I seriously doubt it…

            There’s no way Amazon invests in local roads.

            I’m from Seattle.

            Our roads are absolute ass, I’m talking worse than the average road in a small town in South Dakota or Montana.

            They certainly don’t directly fund any roadwork around Seattle, despite having many logistics hubs in and near the city.

            They’re more likely to strong arm a city, even literally sue them, into upgrading their roads than they are to… like directly contribute some share of their revenue or profit directly into the city’s road maintenance or construction budget.

            0 chance Amazon directly funds building of any roads beyond the roads on their property.

            Provide computers to schools? Sure, I believe that.

            But I am highly doubtful that Amazon directly contributes to building local roads.

            Only way I can even see that kind of making sense in a roundabout way is if the city has some kind of specific tax on heavier vehicles or vehicles used in delivery/logistics…

            In which case … this would apply to any delivery/logistics vehicle of any kind that either transits through or is based out of the city.

            By that logic anyone that pays a sales tax or property tax in the city pays for new roads, likely significantly more, as a group.

            • SouthEndSunset@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              4 天前

              I don’t have source, they’ve claimed to invest in roads and provide computers, but I strongly suspect you’re right, just can’t confirm it cause I can’t provide an example…so let’s just say you’re right.

      • Tetsuo@jlai.luEnglish
        3·
        5 天前

        Also Amazon EU I think is based in Ireland which is kind of a tax haven. We can’t even cooperate within the EU to prevent tax havens…

    • francisfordpoopola@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      641·
      5 天前

      Climb down off of your soapbox. Amazon is what it is because of early strategic decision making and long term shittiness. I’m talking about aggregation and exposure to semi-local partners.