Chinese authorities wrongfully detained more than 20 Tibetans and severely tortured a Tibetan village head named Gonpo Namgyal to death with the repeated use of electric equipment in detention for several months in Ponkor township, Darlag County in Golog in the traditional Tibetan province of Amdo now incorporated into Qinghai, Sichuan and Gansu provinces.
pretty funny that tibet.net is registered in India
https://who.is/whois/tibet.net
also:
The TPSA authorizes a number of appropriations for Tibet and Tibetan related issues including (not less than) $8 million for Tibetan communities in the Tibet Autonomous Region and in other Tibetan communities in China; $6 million for Tibetan communities in India and Nepal; $3 million to strengthen the capacity of Tibetan institutions and governance in exile; over $3.4 million and $4 million respectively for Voice of America’s and Radio Free Asia’s reporting on Tibet and Tibetans; $1 million for Office of the United States Special Coordinator for Tibetan Issues, among others.
Trump and Biden have both signed over millions in US money to run these propaganda sources.
I’m sure it’s registered in a location not controlled by china. So, it’s not “funny” it’s “smart”
How people believe this kind of stuff without any material evidence?
What is an example of material evidence in this situation that would appease you?
So if there was photographic evidence, it would be manufactured?
What kind of evidence would convince you?
Would it need to be reported on by a specific CCP controlled news source?
Having seen the quality of the slop, I know it’s an easy grift.
Radio Free Asia[1]: Tibetan champion of language preservation dies after release
Gonpo Namgyal, leader of Ponkor Village in Qinghai province’s Dharlag county, or Dari in Chinese, was arrested with the abbot of Shangtoe Monastery and over 20 other Tibetans in May for engaging in activities to promote the preservation of Tibetan language and culture, said the two sources who spoke on condition of anonymity due to safety concerns.
China has stepped up efforts to erase Tibetan language use, including the closure of private Tibetan schools, the establishment of boarding schools where children are taught primarily in Mandarin, the prohibition of informal Tibetan language classes during winter break, and the organizing of Mandarin speech competitions in monasteries and schools.
Hmm, where have I heard this story before? 🤔
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_boarding_schools
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system
📽️
Meanwhile at Wikipedia[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_China
Woah. I had no idea both of our countries were pieces of shit. I thought it was just China!
/s
Holy whataboutism, Batman! 🤦
Indigenous people in North America being displaced and oppressed does NOT in fact make it acceptable for the Chinese government to oppress and ethnically cleanse Tibetan people.
If anything, NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time would be THE most effective way for China to distinguish themselves from their geopolitical adversaries in a positive manner.
TL;DR: Nice try, but just as two wrongs doesn’t make a right, the similar but separate atrocities of Western countries don’t excuse those of China in any way.
If anything, NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time would be THE most effective way for China to distinguish themselves from their geopolitical adversaries in a positive manner.
How fucking ironic that you say this.
Only if you miss the fact that I’m implicitly conceding that Western nations are ALSO committing crimes against humanity.
The world isn’t a binary where you have to deny some atrocities in able to be capable of condemning others.
Excuse me, I’m just going to go murder someone to gain the superpower of being able to accuse anyone I want of being a murderer
Oh, how magnanimous of you, lol.
Still deeply ironic that you said that though, while perfectly demonstrating exactly why it isn’t true.
Oh, how magnanimous of you, lol.
Never said that there’s anything magnanimous or otherwise special about acknowledging objective reality rather than ignoring anything that contradicts tribalist dogma. Just because you’re incapable of it doesn’t make it a flex.
Still deeply ironic that you said that though, while perfectly demonstrating exactly why it isn’t true.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
You acted like anyone should give a single nutty shit that you were so nobley willing to concede that the US is bad (but only as bad, never worse), despite it being completely irrelevant.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
Lol, Westerners really are the most brainwashed people on earth: they can’t even parse ideas contrary to their programming, let alone accept them.
Indigenous people in North America being displaced and oppressed […] Chinese government to oppress and ethnically cleanse
hey look another western chauvinist (read: white supremacist) doing genocide denial
UwU smol widdle bean amewica only did a lil scoot scoot to the indians
Building schools and maintaining extensive affirmative action (even excluding minorities from the one child policy) is literally ethnic cleansing.
Killing, jailing, using biological weapons, enacting a century of land grabs and torturing/killing everyone who couldn’t escape, that’s just displacement. The good guys did it, after all.
Holy whataboutism, Batman! 🤦
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Nice try, but just as two wrongs don’t make a right, the similar but separate atrocities of Western countries don’t excuse those of China in any way.
Still waiting on the evidence for those similar atrocities.
NOT committing crimes against humanity all the time
I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity. Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources. But I won’t wait up.
I’m sure you can provide reliable evidence of all these crimes against humanity
Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.
Evidence that is not merely made up assertions from western news media, politicians, and other dubious sources.
Yeah, you haven’t made up your mind already, nuh-uh! You’re DEFINITELY completely objective and the keeper of the Real Truth! 🙄
But I won’t wait up.
Wow, what a vicious and original barb! You must be feared throughout the lying West! Such eloquence! 🤦
your bad faith requests
So I am supposed to just believe it because you said so?
Nope, you’re supposed to believe it because it’s already been thoroughly and accurately documented countless times for several decades.
Your willful ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
it’s already been thoroughly and accurately documented countless times
By who?
Nope, not all of them. Not because they didn’t happen. Because there’s too many to list in a week of non stop writing, which is about a week more than your bad faith requests deserve.
Awfully convenient how everyone always draws this arbitrary, bizarre moral line in the sand about how they can’t provide any evidence for any of their claims about China.
As I told the other tankie: your willful ignorance of history is neither my fault nor my responsibility.
Not pictured: a single source lmao. Your words mean nothing if you can’t back them up.
Westerners like you truly are the most brainwashed people on earth.
Also it’s fucking hilarious that you’re calling other people tankies when you were calling for people to be lined up against a wall and shot less than an hour ago.
Willful ignorance of history is when you demand documentation of history
Incredibly offensive, racist propaganda bullshit. Pure invention by hateful, deranged minds paid for by US congress.
Let me start posting crazed stories about American congressmen going to schools and shooting the children in front of their parents. Perhaps that will even the odds. Closer to truth anyways considering the absolute tranches of human rights atrocities the genocide backing US government and their propaganda rags they call media cover for and cheer on.
Honestly I left reddit so I could get away from US state dept employees posting their weird fiction.
Every accusation is a confession.
[spurious allegations of bigotry in defense of bigoted oppressors and whataboutisms that would make Stalin blush]
🙄
racists doubling down on racism because they assert it’s true
Oh are we sure it’s “wrongfully” or planned?
They planned to arrest them. The wrongful part is the suggestion that it was not for a valid reason.
Let us look at a specific example. A claim like “There’s cultural genocide of Uyghurs in Xinjiang” is simply unreal to most Westerners, close to pure gibberish. The words really refer to existing entities and geographies, but Westerners aren’t familiar with them. The actual content of the utterance as it spills out is no more complex or nuanced than “China Bad,” and the elementary mistakes people make when they write out statements of “solidarity” make that much clear. This is not a complaint that these people have not studied China enough — there’s no reason to expect them to study China, and retrospectively I think to some extent it was a mistake to personally have spent so much time trying to teach them. It’s instead an acknowledgment that they are eagerly wielding the accusation like a club, that they are in reality unconcerned with its truth-content, because it serves a social purpose.
What is this social purpose? Westerners want to believe that other places are worse off, exactly how Americans and Canadians perennially flatter themselves by attacking each others’ decaying health-care systems, or how a divorcee might fantasize that their ex-lover’s blooming love-life is secretly miserable. This kind of “crab mentality” is actually a sophisticated coping mechanism suitable for an environment in which no other course of action seems viable. Cognitive dissonance, the kind that eventually spurs one into becoming intolerant of the status quo and into action, is initially unpleasant and scary for everybody. In this way, we can begin to understand the benefit that “victims” of propaganda derive from carelessly “spreading awareness.” Their efforts feed an ambient propaganda haze of controversy and scandal and wariness that suffocates any painful optimism (or jealousy) and ensuing sense of duty one might otherwise feel from a casual glance at the amazing things happening elsewhere. People aren’t “falling” for atrocity propaganda; they’re eagerly seeking it out, like a soothing balm.
https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/
Now, go ahead and downvoot, you lemmy.world arseholes
I don’t think anyone reads the propaganda copy and paste stuff you guys do anymore. Gotta pay rent I guess.
Then, why’d ye bother responding… anyways, how’s rent on your part?
this reply is a joke just for the people who read the excerpt
Every accusation is a confession;)
I mean I’m not sure what I expected here in the comments, but still. What do you think happens in Tibet and with the Muslim minorities? Cherishing of multiculturalism by the CCP?
Sure the source is completely unreliable and there’s no actual evidence of anything…
But none of that matters because this is a serious topic and discussion. Now defend yourself against my own personal common sense and hypotheticals
Every time
It’s always the same usernames who copy and paste shit like it’s facts.
I find these comment sections really helpful because the tankies expose themselves and I can easily add tags to their profile. Makes it much easier to spot their manipulation when they try to blend in on other topics.
Davel is hardcore tankie. Always has some huge quote to post and no ideas of their own. Gets super pissed off when you challenge them on easily debunked topics. Always the same end, “western” this or that.
You have to do more than say “wrong, no u” at a Wikipedia article with sources.
What else are they supposed to say so they don’t get zero content responses like yours? Are you the China expert which can disprove what they’re saying?
I’m certainly not so I have no idea what the actual reality here is, it’s essentially someone’s word against someone else’s.
But they get to say “wrong, no u” at Wikipedia articles with sources that I post.
And just because a country has some kind of affirmative action plan doesn’t mean it works. Look at the US. lol.
