Maple Engineer

If you change your mind, let me know.

If you want to have a conversation about the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don’t think he was a “real” American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker without using logical fallacies I’m happy to do it. If you continue to use logical fallacies I will continue to point out that you are. It’s really easy. If you want to have a good faith conversation I’m happy to do that and I will continue to ignore your insults and name calling. Up to you.

Strawman

Strawman

I’ve pointed out that you have used strawman arguments more than once because you’ve used strawman arguments more than once. If you stop using logical fallacies I’ll stop pointing out that you’re using logical fallacies. I’m not going to stop pointing out the fact that you’re using logical fallacies because you don’t lie the fact that I’m pointing out that you’re using logical fallacies or because you keep whinging about it.

The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don’t think he was a real American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

Some Reddit refugee is downvote every one of my comments. How fucking pathetic.

Strawman.

If you don’t do it I can’t point out that you did it.

I did not insult you.

I pointed out that you were using logical fallacies to attempt to derail the conversation. If you don’t use logical fallacies I will not point out that you are using logical fallacies.

The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don’t believe that he was a “real” American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

Still here when you have something intelligent to say.

I know you are but what am I?

You just can’t help yourself can you? One tired cliché after another.

The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don’t believe that he was a “real” American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

A conversing isn’t a debate. It’s an exchange of ideas with the goal of expanding understanding of each other’s opinions.

Do you want to have a conversion or do you want to continue to use one tired cliché device after another and have me point them out? The problem isn’t that I’m calling them out. The problem is that you’re using them in the first place. Stop being so weak and ineffectual and actually have a conversation.

You would participate in a good faith conversation because you have intelligent opinions on the topic of the conversion which is the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don’t believe that he is a “real” American because he isn’t white, he isn’t Christian, and he isn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

You instead used weak devices as a bad faith effort to distract from the subject of the conversation and thus to derail the it. My calling out those weak devices has rendered you completely ineffective. All you’ve done is whinge about my calling you out and called me names and hurled insults.

It didn’t work. It isn’t going to work. I’m still here and I’m still willing to talk about the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don’t think that he’s a “real” American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

If you want to have an intelligent conversation I remain willing, or just keep hissing and spitting, whatever.

Your insults have no power here.

The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don’t give a shit that a Palestinian American was killed because they don’t believe that he was a “real” American because he wasn’t white, he wasn’t a Christian, and he wasn’t a MAGAzi bootlicker.

If you want to have a conversation I’m here but you haven’t made any good faith effort to contribute to the conversation for several comments.

Danth’s Law

You need to understand that these just aren’t the devastating insults that you think they are outside of the tankie triad.

My original point was that the MAGAzis don’t give a shit about a Palestinian American being killed because he isn’t a real American (white Christian fascist bootlicker.)

I still don’t care about your name calling or insults. If you have anything meaningful to add to the conversation let me know.

59 yo man with ASD with a 20 yo daughter with ASD.

We don’t perceive or express emotions the way normies do. We don’t understand subtle social clues or hints. It’s easier for us if you just tell us what you are thinking. My wife is moody and passive aggressive which I just don’t understand. If you’re happy, tell her. If you’re mad, tell her. If you’re upset with her, deal with it.

If she is peopled out give her space.

If she’s with you it’s because she wants to be. She has learned to mask which can make her seem cold or indifferent. She’s just trying to act in a way that won’t cause a negative reaction that she has witnessed in the past.

I do that. When I’m dealing with someone new who I find attractive I am extremely flat bordering on cold. I have misinterpreted what I thought were hints or suggestions in the past so I assume that everything that might be a hint or a suggestion is not and play everything neutral casual. I’ve been told by women that I’m emotionally stupid as a result.

Make her feel safe telling you what she wants. If she tells you she wants something do it if you can. If you can’t, don’t get emotion, just explain that you can’t but ask her to ask about the next thing. Make her feel safe asking you for things.

If you can learn to communicate with her Aspies are a lot of fun. I have a standard speech that I give to everyone I meet that I might be interested in being more than casual acquaintances with that explains how I act and how to communicate with me. I had someone once ask, “So I can ask you anything and you will say, ‘yes’ or, ‘no’ and if you say, ‘no’ it won’t change anything?” Yes. “Like what can I ask?” Do you want to have coffee? Can I join your Minecraft realm? Can I sit on your face? “Can I sit in your face?” Yes. “That’s cool.”

We find dealing with normies who never just come out and say what they want and who hint and suggest and brood exhausting. When you get two of us together shit happens.

I hope this helps.

EDIT: I should proofread. Fucking racoons.

Stay in your safe space, dude. It’s scary outside the echo bunker.

Ad hominem. You just can’t help yourself.

Have a good faith conversation. As long as you use these super weak devices I’m going to call them out. I don’t care what names you call me or what insults you hurl.

Having your bullshit called out clearly triggers you. Have you considered making informed, good faith arguments instead of trying to devalue the labels legitimately applied to your weak devices? Don’t want your strawman called out? Don’t use strawman arguments. Don’t want your whataboutism called out? Don’t use whataboutism. Don’t like that I called out all your normal devices? Don’t use them.

If you stop using those weak devices and actually engage in a good faith discussion I’m here. Keep using those weak devices and I will keep calling them out.

Basically a straight up admition that they’re both meaningless though terminating cliches

Another straw man. You guys are on a roll.

What is cliché is resorting to strawman arguments and whataboutism/bothsidesism when your dogmatic incantations don’t win the day. They are the refuge of the weak. Attempting to devalue the ideas is a transparent effort to reduce the impact of your weakness being labelled, It’s the same as white supremacists loudly calling out Godwin’s Law when they are rightly labelled as Nazis or Zionists labelling legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel antisematism. Mike Godwin himself said, “By all means, compare these assholes to Nazis. Again and again. I’m with you.”

The modern whataboutism is the bothsidesism.

You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!

You’re on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!

I mean if, we’re being real, it was also a whataboutism. “What about what the democrats did?”

Get better.