• errer@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Honestly unsure what they were thinking with a 5 mile bike lane where the major population centers are a few miles from each end of the bridge and with no safe bike infrastructure between the bridge and those pop centers. Sure you can ride across the bridge but…to where? This project almost feels designed to fail and make bikes look bad.

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      2 hours ago

      Your argument seems to be that nobody should ever start anything unless it’s a complete, end-to-end solution at the end of Phase 1.

    • kersploosh@sh.itjust.works
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      19 hours ago

      I’ll bet the lane is there purely to satisfy some requirement for including non-car infrastructure, regardless of whether it makes sense in this particular location. It’s the same way we get fun bike lanes like these:

      • forwhomthecattolls@sh.itjust.works
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        40 minutes ago

        that photo feels like the bike lanes in my city that literally merge the right lane of car traffic into the bike lane at traffic lights. it’s like they are trying to kill bicycle riders on purpose

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        16 hours ago

        Sometimes it’s to artificially narrow the lane to slow traffic. That’s what they did here.

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      15 hours ago

      Do you live here? There are major population centers on both sides of the bridge (Richmond on one end, San Rafael on the other) and the Ohlone trail + Richmond Greenway means you can ride a bike from Emeryville all the way to the bridge quite easily.

      That said it’s a beast of a commute to ride. I’d say 90% of the bikers I see on there aren’t using it to commute but are using it for exercise/pleasure cycling. I do see about 10% of bikers on ebikes that could make this a viable commute.

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        12 hours ago

        I lived there a while ago. Emeryville is what, several miles from the end of the bridge? Pleasure riding sure, but as the article said, no one is actually using these to get to work.

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      18 hours ago

      Some years ago now, a bunch of bike lanes got added to the streets in my city. The city did a big project of adding them and afterwards proudly declared that X number of kilometers of bike lanes had been made.

      When an investigation was done into how the decision process had gone for where to add them it turned out that the only consideration had been “how cheap is it to add bike lanes in these locations?” Not “would bike lanes actually be used in these locations?” They were solely trying to maximize the kilometers-of-lane-per-dollar-spent so that they could put out that headline with as big a number as possible.

      Subsequent studies showed that a lot of those lanes weren’t being used by bikes in any significant number. Bike lanes had been added on streets that ran alongside sidewalks that were already designated bike paths. I’m a bike rider myself, some lanes were added in my neighborhood but they somehow managed to put them everywhere except the routes I usually took. The city wound up spending a bunch more money to remove a bunch of the bike lanes that were doing nothing but increasing congestion.

      It may be that this was a similar situation, where someone wanted to proudly show off headlines of how they’d pushed for bike access and got X numbers of kilometers installed and those were the only real metrics that mattered.

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    19 hours ago

    If my math is correct - those sick bikers are just carbo-loading & farting so much they don’t even use pedals.

    (It’s the only way it would make sense.)

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      18 hours ago

      I can’t say anything about your math, but I can say that you didn’t read the article.

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    18 hours ago

    have you tried car pooling or transit?

    no the bikes are the problem!!!

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    18 hours ago

    the core issue is that there is too little road space for the number of cars that ply that route and too much road space for the bikes that are ridden there.

    it seems to one that an easier fix would be for more people to give up driving in favour of riding bikes.

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      17 hours ago

      You’re out of your mind if you think taking out car lanes is going to make people start a 15 mile bike commute to work.

      That bike lane is 100% recreational.

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        4 hours ago

        Well, that’s exactly what I do since last year. I use an electric bike (converted from a mechanical one), and if it takes time, it is actually faster than taking my car (40 minutes vs 1h+).
        And I do it even in the winter, when we get bellow zero temperatures. I just dresses warmly.

        Edit : The bike (Le Petit Porteur Longtail, wasn’t yet electrified at the time of this picture)