And if not what do you expect/want to replace it with. I dont think the whole web being like the fediverse is feasible,since billions of users use the internet
Absolutely fucking not.
It’s not an internet. It’s a top-down content filter with a paywall.
It’s not worth the price of admission and I’m paying for it twice already and then being asked to pay a third time to access most of it with advertising on top of it.
I’m unbypassable-android-app-restrictions away from cutting off from the whole goddamn thing.
In some ways yes and in some ways no.
Data and information are now more widely available than ever. Of course, misinformation is also more widely available than ever.
The new web feels devoid of passion/ humanity. Gone are the days of self funded sites that existed “just because”. Now everything has to generate revenue to stay afloat. I do miss the days where it felt special to be on the Internet, whether you were hosting content or observing it.
The modern internet is very sterile, sanitised, and boring. It is a hollow and empty shell of what it once was.
Yea but think of how many ads you could fit in that bad boy
You could even host a website where it is just ads, and not only do people pay for the privilege, but other people visit it, like it’s a point of interest.
I like to work 8 hours to earn a living and then spend the next 6 hours I’m awake being subjected to
sales men trying to sell me thingswatching dude perfect
That means you need to get out more.
The old Internet is still out there; it’s just that it is as flaky and hard to navigate as it always has been.
The “modern” Internet is just a select number of services that send each other traffic and run by the algorithm.
Most of the Internet I use in my spare time is stuff that’s been around since the 90s and still has about the same number of users it had then. Some of it is even indexed by search engines.
Could you give some pointers?
Well, browse Google below the SEO dreck. Then follow the links.
Or, find some niche hobby site and follow its links.
Branch out from the world wide web… I still visit Hotline sites, the odd Gopher server, and other protocols of yesteryear.
Browse a few sites in the wayback engine and find linked sites that still exist there.
Or, go a totally different route and browse Tor or I2P.
what it once was.
Very slow connection with inability to find websites,and needing to know every single url?
Lol this is some weird out of touch take if I’ve ever seen one
Ah, yes, I remember those days with the text-only LYNX browser from the unix terminal and the joy of Netscape Navigator on machines that could handle windows. Searching was difficult until there was Alta Vista, which was AMAZING compared to the competition, but even it failed for D&D-style gamers who tried to search for “role playing games” and got back a list of a million sex sites and zero visible pen/paper/dice games. Happily, you could add boolean operator rules to get rid of some of that (NOT sex NOT babes NOT XXX) – but you’d either be typing a lot of naughty words to skip or you’d have to remember the sites that catered to RPGs because searching could be very hit or miss.
I don’t know how you arrived at this based on what @TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca was saying.
Connection strength is a network/infrastructure problem while what was being said in the original comment is an application/usage one.
The other part of your statement can be solved using a search engine which restricts itself to just searches and not distract itself with ads and AI. But evidently such a product is hard to build in today’s world.
Well, yes.
Human curated but now my connection is faster than what some of the sites I visit can serve.
I despise the centralized web and actively avoid it. Theres still plenty of WEB1.0 oit there, its just gettibg harder to find as years go on. But there are some things I don’t want to go back to, gore and other shock stuff comes to mind.
Posting on forums and finding random websites, GeoCities, tripod, chatting on IRC… These were the days.
I wish I’d never stopped using IRC for chat tbh
I dont think the whole web being like the fediverse is feasible
It does not need to be. “Whole web” being a certain way almost implies it all follows the same standards from which point the people who set and develop those standards become the centralised authority.
I like to think of the internet as simply a carrier of digital information. This can be any information. My vpn tunnel is just as much a part of the whole as a public website.
The way i envision a positive evolution is that more people get involved in running their own network, for themselves, their family, their neighbourhood, a global community they are a part of.
They can use the activitypub protocol, a selfmade protocol or any other they want. The only thing that matters is that the people who need and use the digital information can use it.
The public internet dominated by large players will still exist but it will be (and actually already is) a small portion of everything we use the web for.
I don’t like decentralized web like Lemmy too: I hoped it would be significantly better but it isn’t. Crazy fanatics instead of users and the same Reddit-tier moderators.
I joined Lemmy during the Reddit API change. It was pretty dead on Lemmy but communities were forming and I could have discussions with others, it felt promising. But sadly the reality now is it feels like Lemmy is becoming an echo chamber like Reddit was and conversations are stifled.
In addition to this some people immediately engage others in a negative way, where someone may be misinformed or misunderstood, and rather than offer knowledge or insight they are called fucking idiots.
It doesn’t feel like a community.
Starting to feel like reddit and its low effort crap is starting to make its way here too
its the reddit purges, and shadowbanning, since they have been aggressively doing it, bans the “rightfully ban people that are trolls and spammers/ propagandists” they come here too.
Ugh I mean I know we have block and are encouraged to do it, but there’s only so much I feel like doing. I’m at a point of nearly instant banning any community that sounds copy/paste from reddit
Methinks you guys are hanging out too much on .world. There are other instances out there.
Well, I don’t miss the kiddie porn being dropped into chat rooms and forums randomly like could happen back in the day. But I like having a decent chance of finding whatever product I want/need and a better than zero shot at finding whatever obscure thing I’m interested in on Wikipedia.
There’s tradeoffs. But the old net was a lot more fun.
The tildeverse is still keeping the old internet alive
I don’t like it, no. But it won’t be replaced, just like the wild west Internet of yesteryear wasn’t replaced: it’s still where we left it. And so will these behemoths be, when we move past them.
Don’t believe me? Livejournal and mySpace are still running, at the same addresses. Your old login still works.
Myspace servers were wiped clean about 10 years ago. I checked about 3 years ago. My profile, and all my friends profiles were gone.
It’s a music service now.
No clue about live journal. I never had one.
Last I looked my Myspace profile was still there but all the content was gone. That’s somehow worse.
I don’t think keeping the web centralized is sustainable because it used to always been open, free, and decentralized. We can already see the centralization falling apart
Not convinced the masses will go back, they will keep flocking to whatever’s hyped and new. Many countries only know web2.0 as the internet and never experienced the wild west, their world is Facebook and whatsapp
We deserve an internet that is not merely a surveillance farm for billionnaires and governments.
