depends on what capital punishment does for you personally. it’s honestly not corrective or even preventative in any way. I know some living people I would wish that on and they didn’t even commit murder. but I think I would rather live in a society that instead invested in making sure these crimes never happen
I’ve wrestled with myself and reversed my own position several times throughout my life, to the point that I can’t confidently advocate for one side of the issue or the other right now.
In theory, capital punishment would only be used against those who are incontrovertibly guilty. In practice, it has been used against many innocent people who would have been exonerated by later evidence.
In theory, the point of capital punishment would only be to protect society from someone who is actually too dangerous to live, not to exact vengeance. In practice, for most of the people involved, vengeance is a strong motivation.
In theory, capital punishment would be painless and humane, especially compared to a lifetime rotting in prison. In practice, executions are too-often botched, in which case they’re torturously painful.
In theory, capital punishment would be carried out swiftly. In practice, inmates typically spend decades on death row, effectively punishing them with both life in prison and execution.
In theory, capital punishment should be cheaper and less of a state burden than a life sentence. In practice, it’s more expensive due to the appeals and legal review process to which someone on death row is rightfully entitled.
In theory, if I myself were convicted of a capital crime today regardless of whether I was innocent, I would rather die than live the rest of my life in prison without chance of parole. In practice, I have no idea how I would actually face that situation.
In my heart, I want to believe that the world would be better-off if we swiftly and cleanly executed any monsters who prove themselves capable of murdering children. In my mind I know there is no black and white, only shades of gray.
Oh, well, yeah, then I can see why he needed to be executed. Clearly he was an imminent danger to society and everyone around him.
/s
It’s hard for me to find sympathy for someone who murdered two children and their mother.
But even I have to admit that it feels fucked up to wait 40 years for a man to develop dementia and heart disease before executing him.
depends on what capital punishment does for you personally. it’s honestly not corrective or even preventative in any way. I know some living people I would wish that on and they didn’t even commit murder. but I think I would rather live in a society that instead invested in making sure these crimes never happen
Wishing someone was dead and believing that the government should have the authority to do that are two very different things, though.
correct. so fucking correct, I want to hold what you just said up on the mountain top like simba
I’ve wrestled with myself and reversed my own position several times throughout my life, to the point that I can’t confidently advocate for one side of the issue or the other right now.
In theory, capital punishment would only be used against those who are incontrovertibly guilty. In practice, it has been used against many innocent people who would have been exonerated by later evidence.
In theory, the point of capital punishment would only be to protect society from someone who is actually too dangerous to live, not to exact vengeance. In practice, for most of the people involved, vengeance is a strong motivation.
In theory, capital punishment would be painless and humane, especially compared to a lifetime rotting in prison. In practice, executions are too-often botched, in which case they’re torturously painful.
In theory, capital punishment would be carried out swiftly. In practice, inmates typically spend decades on death row, effectively punishing them with both life in prison and execution.
In theory, capital punishment should be cheaper and less of a state burden than a life sentence. In practice, it’s more expensive due to the appeals and legal review process to which someone on death row is rightfully entitled.
In theory, if I myself were convicted of a capital crime today regardless of whether I was innocent, I would rather die than live the rest of my life in prison without chance of parole. In practice, I have no idea how I would actually face that situation.
In my heart, I want to believe that the world would be better-off if we swiftly and cleanly executed any monsters who prove themselves capable of murdering children. In my mind I know there is no black and white, only shades of gray.
Fuck it. I think certain traffic offenses should be punishable by death, but I can’t trust the state to correctly determine guilt.
Me too, I still don’t believe I’ve reached my final conclusion regarding how we do justice. But all of your points are well said
Are you suggesting he should never have been released after that first incident? That sounds even worse
not at all. I just think it’s possible to make a society where that doesn’t happen. not that it’s this one.
Needed to be executed quickly before he dies by himself!
at this point that’s just cost saving.
the healthcare cost exceds whatever the prison is getting, so just kill him instead.
Yeah because if he did that then… He … Won? And we lost? I guess?
Yeah!
Honestly if I was in this guy’s situation I might willingly consent to the chair…
Define “quickly.” After all, they waited nearly 40 years for him to develop those conditions before they finally killed him
They didn’t wanna let that moment go to waste
Well sure he never to be executed before he could commit the heinous crime of euthanasia!
That would be inhumane!
::: spoiler
/S
It’s not about logic, or compassion, it’s about JUSTICE - aka revenge, sending a message, setting an example, etc. etc.
While I don’t agree with it, that’s what a LOT of Tennessee voters want.