I’ve seen alot of calls for violence in America. Whether it be directed at the president or Federal officers, many people are advocating for an escalation in response to the current situation.
And believe me, I do understand. what I see happening in America is horrifying. But all I am imploring is to really think about what your asking for. Because you can’t put the genie in the bottle once you’ve left it out.
If you’re really gung-ho about it, go and ask a Veteran of Iraq or Afghanistan about it and see what they think. If anyone will know about it they will.
I am going to link a YouTube Playlist. Its the Associated Press Archives of the Bosnian-Serbian war. Because THAT is what will happen if wide scale violence breaks out. Except what will happen in America will be a hundred times worse.
The Bosnian war was pretty much broken up along ethnic lines. “Well it’s going to be Conservative VS. Liberal” you say. Except it won’t be. It will be anyone having a grudge against someone going after them.
ALOT of personal animosity will be taken out in the first few weeks I feel.
And I think the Seige of Sarajavo will be writ large in American cities across the country. Imagine having to dodge sniper fire on your way to get to your job at Wendy’s.
Because that’s the other thing no one is thinking about. You are still going to have to make a living while this is all going to be happening. And the cost of everything will skyrocket. Shipping will probably have to be escorted from place to place because people will be stealing or even blockading locations because they’re “damn dirty libs” or “Fascist Conservatives” Fresh produce will become a thing of the past.
Canada and Mexico will close their borders due to all the refugee’s trying to cross. so if you thinking of doing it, do it the moment everything pops off because otherwise you won’t get in.
Basically Civil war is going to the worst thing to happen in America in a long time. and the only good that comes out of it will be Americans will finally have first hand experience of real war torn violence. And maybe that will hopefully last for another two hundred years or so.
If America even survives the outcome that is.
People in the US have been protected from the reality of war since the civil war in the 1860s. Even vets (a very small minority) of real wars get to come home at the end of it. The reality would be more like Vietnam or Syria were the war is your home and there is no escape. It is like the war against vaccines, people have forgotten the reality of life with those diseases and take the return of them very lightly.
Yeah, someone who’s witnessed the devastation of war might say “You don’t want that, you really don’t understand what you’re calling for” and someone who’s never seen combat outside of video games and movies would say something like “You might be a coward, but I’m not.”
Like, dude, until those first bullets fly over your head, you don’t know how you’re going to react. When you’re getting shelled, and explosions are happening so close the shock wave alone can give you a concussion, when fighter jets and bombers fly overhead and all you can do is wonder whether you’ll still be alive and intact five minutes from now, when communications and supply chains break down, food is scarce, clean water hard to come by, when the power grid goes down and you have to weather extreme temperatures in the summer and winter, when chaos reigns and you have to wonder every time you see a person whether they’re gonna try to kill you, when you have to ration supplies so you don’t run out, and have to avoid patrols of armored vehicles and evade detection 24/7 or risk getting bombed by drones, and when there’s no end in sight but the slog goes on and on and on, night and day, without relenting, and you have to wonder how much longer you’ll have to go on like this, how much longer you can go on like this, when every day when the sun rises you don’t know if you’ll be alive to see it set, and every night when the sun sets you don’t know if you’ll be alive to see it rise, if you’ve been through all that hell on earth and haven’t shit your pants, and still think it’s a worthwhile tradeoff to avoid having to vote for an imperfect candidate, then sure, maybe you have room to talk.
In real war, you can’t power down when you’re done playing. And if you have people you care about, then multiply hell by a thousand, because chances are you won’t be able to keep in contact and you’ll have to wonder every minute of every day whether they’re having it any better or worse than you are, while you’re utterly helpless to protect them because all you can do is fight to keep yourself alive another day.
Nobody is calling out for civil war. If it start it is because of Ice . People have the right to self defence when they got attacked by those thugs. The same eyewitness who say he didn’t want a war would tell you that he do not regret fighting against oppression
Elements of the Right have spent years calling for a civil war, what rock have you been living under?
Yeah, some people definitely are, especially on the internet.
Sure, people have a right to stand their ground. That right might not be recognized by the legal system, but some rights go beyond the ability of mortal men to give or take away.
That doesn’t change the fact that if they outnumber you, then you might (if you’re both skilled and lucky) take one out with you before the rest of them blast you.
If they’re going to blast you anyway then you have nothing to lose, but for most people it seems like the best possible outcome would be to avoid escalating as much as possible.
Ice is like the gestspo though
And do you know what it took to stop the Gestapo?
I’ll give you a hint, it was more than just a ragtag group of German rebels with guns refusing to comply.
There was people in germany who fought the gestapo, they didn’t wait to be saved by the allies thst wouldn’t helped them if Hitler didn’t declare war on them
How did that turn out for them?
If they didn’t resist the gestspo would have still kidnapping jews and send them to extermination camp .
Yes, some are. I have seen it a few times online, but people tend ti talk big on the internet. What really scared me was when I heard it in person.
I live in a pretty conservative area and I was at a bar the day after Charlie Kirk was assassinated and some woman said, and I quote, “The liberals don’t realize that this means war. They’re not ready, but I am. Send me to the frontlines!” Her friend asked, “You mean you want a civil war?” And she answered, “Yes. They fired the first shot. It’s on now.”
“They fired the first shot”
*Looks at Vance Boelter
I doubt an unhinged conservative even knows who that is.
Because it was glossed over in conservative and mainstream media. They acted all shocked about Charlie Kirk, but they had never even heard of Melissa Hortman. Even the ones who knew of the incident pretended it didn’t exist.
They’re not in touch with reality.
Even worse would be the terror groups like in Syria and Vietnam where they come into a town after the enemy has left and slaughter anyone they think did or could collaborate. They would also take all the food they could leaving populations to starve.
And yet anarchists believe they hold the keys to a utopian future…
“Just read theory, you just don’t understand. Humans will take care of each other, just trust me.”
Well that’s a strange segue.
I also seem to recall plenty of effective anarchist defense groups in the various civil wars.
Aren’t there a bunch of anarchist communities in Syria right now?