Edward Gibbons used it quite a bit in the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written sometime around 1750-ish, before the american revolution, the founding fathers all read it.
Yes, I got the joke. And I was suggesting that Americans have always been on about other Americans not assimilating into their American culture.
I also just find jokes about fascists being hypocritical or contradictory are no longer funny when the assumption that it’s an indication of foolish lack of self-awareness no longer holds because double-think is the active goal.
I guess I’d say that the joke is for us and not them, but I’d also argue that they genuinely don’t assimilate, probably to a much greater degree than any other demographic.
Conservatives don’t assimilate into American society.
They’re whole ethos is antisocial. They are obstinent toddlers who stomp their feet and fold their arms and think it’s funny to make other people mad.
really have to stop calling them conservatives, they’re regressives clearly
Remember that old fad of theirs were they called us the “regressive left”.
These people are so fucking disingenuous.
I prefer degeneratives.
I learned pretty recently that “degenerate” has roots in eugenics so I try to avoid that one.
Edward Gibbons used it quite a bit in the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, which was written sometime around 1750-ish, before the american revolution, the founding fathers all read it.
The USA is not a monolith. The lines and features have probably shifted, but the idea of Colin Woodward’s “American Nations” rings quite true today.
You’re missing the joke. One of the chief conservative complaints about immigrants is that “they don’t assimilate into american society”.
Yes, I got the joke. And I was suggesting that Americans have always been on about other Americans not assimilating into their American culture. I also just find jokes about fascists being hypocritical or contradictory are no longer funny when the assumption that it’s an indication of foolish lack of self-awareness no longer holds because double-think is the active goal.
Fair enough, I suppose
I guess I’d say that the joke is for us and not them, but I’d also argue that they genuinely don’t assimilate, probably to a much greater degree than any other demographic.