i’ve been loudly condemning trump for well over 10 years, losing relationships with friends and family because of it. I didn’t “invite” shit, and i accept zero responsibility for the bullshit fascist…whatever the fuck you call this place now. this country is full of fucking racist brainwashed sheep and/or just plain gullible morons.
Of course not. If the first move on a chess board was to simply take your opponent’s king, that would always be the first move in every game.
Having the midterm vote suppressed is just one sacrificial pawn in the direction of what needs to be done to eradicate fascism.
Knowing what to do isn’t that valuable if you don’t time it correctly. It’s not just one person or party. It is systemic and requires a critical mass of history to be successful.
hmmm with every erosion of your civil rights and liberties, the job of getting the pedophile president out is just going to be harder and harder… you don’t need to wait until the last possible recourse is an actual assassination.
It is beyond my understanding how nobody seems to be actually calling for a General Strike in the USA… and the feeble attempts at marches (which are good) are specifically called far apart and on weekends to ensure they can simply be ignored by the regime
There’s plenty of local calls for a general strike, but the media (social, mainstream, all of them) are actively squashing it because they’re owned by the billionaires who are the true benefactors of fascism.
Plus the fact that close to 60% of us would just be flat broke if we miss a paycheck, it’s not an easy hill to get over.
The news did a very effective job of nullifying the No Kings protests. Hard to get a unified movement in a country larger than Europe going when it doesn’t even get on the nightly news.
While I do understand the difficulties, I think you keep underestimating how shitty it will be to become a functional slave under fascism with no civil liberties or rights.
Yes, being broke is a problem… getting killed for not addressing a cop as “sir” sucks even more
Obligatory reminder that the US is geographically monstrous and organizing a nationwide strike of enough people would be extremely difficult to pull off. We’re also extremely tied to our employment for little luxuries like healthcare, and we have very weak worker protection laws, and right now seems like an especially bad time to lose your job protesting for the sake of the half of the country that absolutely loves what Trump is doing, whether they admit it openly or not.
A lot of us are organizing and are going out pretty much every weekend to protests. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.
The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.
The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.
Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.
Vote (effectively). If you still have a glimmer of hope that things can be changed for the better, you need to be doing this. Job one is to keep republicans out of power, vote for whomever is going to beat them. Job 2 is to push Democrats further left in the primaries. Mamdani showed us that this can happen, reluctantly at first, but the party will respond to its voters. Key word there is “voters” if you don’t vote, they don’t know about you, and won’t give a fuck about you.
Disruption. I can’t in good faith call for violence, but if you genuinely believe it is impossible to fix the system by voting, you need to be in the streets disrupting day to day operation of the system that oppresses you. Protest, strike, squat, whatever you gotta do, but you can’t do it halfway. If you aren’t literally ready to fight for your life then, this option isn’t for you.
Do nothing. You can just sit around and bitch about things. Whatever happens is (almost) equally your fault as it is the people who voted for it. You’ll end up against the wall just like the other two groups, but it will take the nazis you left the door open for, a little bit longer to get around to you. I’ve got no respect for the people in this group, no one should TBH.
you are not wrong… but I was referring to the pedo president sabotagging elections… if he is OK comitting the country to war to cover his past crimes, cancelling elections would be a walk in the park
you still think voting will get you out of the fascism you invited in?
i’ve been loudly condemning trump for well over 10 years, losing relationships with friends and family because of it. I didn’t “invite” shit, and i accept zero responsibility for the bullshit fascist…whatever the fuck you call this place now. this country is full of fucking racist brainwashed sheep and/or just plain gullible morons.
agreed… sorry you are caught up in the generalization
Of course not. If the first move on a chess board was to simply take your opponent’s king, that would always be the first move in every game.
Having the midterm vote suppressed is just one sacrificial pawn in the direction of what needs to be done to eradicate fascism.
Knowing what to do isn’t that valuable if you don’t time it correctly. It’s not just one person or party. It is systemic and requires a critical mass of history to be successful.
hmmm with every erosion of your civil rights and liberties, the job of getting the pedophile president out is just going to be harder and harder… you don’t need to wait until the last possible recourse is an actual assassination.
It is beyond my understanding how nobody seems to be actually calling for a General Strike in the USA… and the feeble attempts at marches (which are good) are specifically called far apart and on weekends to ensure they can simply be ignored by the regime
There’s plenty of local calls for a general strike, but the media (social, mainstream, all of them) are actively squashing it because they’re owned by the billionaires who are the true benefactors of fascism.
Plus the fact that close to 60% of us would just be flat broke if we miss a paycheck, it’s not an easy hill to get over.
The news did a very effective job of nullifying the No Kings protests. Hard to get a unified movement in a country larger than Europe going when it doesn’t even get on the nightly news.
Maybe try it on a weekday… not a weekend when it’s so much easier to ignore
“Do it when people are working, not when they are able to attend.”
so you don’t know what a general strike is?
it’s not a party, the idea is that people don’t work or consume to stop economic activity
So you don’t know that No Kings was not an economic protest?
While I do understand the difficulties, I think you keep underestimating how shitty it will be to become a functional slave under fascism with no civil liberties or rights.
Yes, being broke is a problem… getting killed for not addressing a cop as “sir” sucks even more
The more you wait, the harder it will be
Obligatory reminder that the US is geographically monstrous and organizing a nationwide strike of enough people would be extremely difficult to pull off. We’re also extremely tied to our employment for little luxuries like healthcare, and we have very weak worker protection laws, and right now seems like an especially bad time to lose your job protesting for the sake of the half of the country that absolutely loves what Trump is doing, whether they admit it openly or not.
Obligatory reminder that losing democracy, civil rights and liberties is going to suck 100 times more… the more you wait, the worst it will be for you
“But who will hang the bell on the cat’s neck?”
FYI, this is somehow illegal in the USA.
so?
A lot of us are organizing and are going out pretty much every weekend to protests. I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
Our current situation really is the culmination of almost 70 years of rightwing efforts. It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.
The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.
The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.
Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.
https://generalstrikeus.com/
https://www.dsausa.org/
https://pslweb.org/
https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/
https://socialistra.org/
https://www.socialistalternative.org/
https://afsc.org/news/how-create-mutual-aid-network
https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/raids/
https://mutualaidhub.org/
Maybe if people actually showed the fuck up it might. But there’s so many “voting doesn’t do shit” people that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The way I see it, there are 3 choices.
Vote (effectively). If you still have a glimmer of hope that things can be changed for the better, you need to be doing this. Job one is to keep republicans out of power, vote for whomever is going to beat them. Job 2 is to push Democrats further left in the primaries. Mamdani showed us that this can happen, reluctantly at first, but the party will respond to its voters. Key word there is “voters” if you don’t vote, they don’t know about you, and won’t give a fuck about you.
Disruption. I can’t in good faith call for violence, but if you genuinely believe it is impossible to fix the system by voting, you need to be in the streets disrupting day to day operation of the system that oppresses you. Protest, strike, squat, whatever you gotta do, but you can’t do it halfway. If you aren’t literally ready to fight for your life then, this option isn’t for you.
Do nothing. You can just sit around and bitch about things. Whatever happens is (almost) equally your fault as it is the people who voted for it. You’ll end up against the wall just like the other two groups, but it will take the nazis you left the door open for, a little bit longer to get around to you. I’ve got no respect for the people in this group, no one should TBH.
you are not wrong… but I was referring to the pedo president sabotagging elections… if he is OK comitting the country to war to cover his past crimes, cancelling elections would be a walk in the park
Do you really think “voting” will, for example, bring about real change, like universal healthcare?
Over 70% of voters want universal healthcare, as polls have demonstrated for over THIRTY YEARS. It doesn’t matter.
Think of voting as participating in a poll or something, like voting for your favorite “American Idol”.
It won’t actually change the show, it’s just part of the entertainment.
Invited in? I didn’t invite any of this in. Not by my vote, not by my letters to government officials, and not by my protests.
I’m sure the world is very interested in whether you invited him or not, just as much as in who in Russia did or didn’t vote for Putin.
Thank you
It’s a generalization… “you” as in “Americans” voted this in TWICE!
both asscheeks of the uniparty are at fault for creating the circumstances