• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    13 hours ago

    You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years

    I see you cherry picked the years

    Unbelievable 🤣

    Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year

    Because doing so has allowed them to lift 700 million people out of extreme poverty. The revolution that feeds the children gets my support.

    Are you a Maoist? Do you think China should’ve stayed the course instead of doing reforms? Then they wouldn’t have billionaires. Or are you just chauvanistically criticizing them regardless of what they do or don’t do?

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      8 hours ago

      Let’s ignore recent history because if you go back you see the enormous loss of life due to shitty policies backed up by propaganda and lies. Believable.

      If you have come to terms that China’s ruling party engaged in a cultural revolution costing millions of lives to just become what they literally fought against that is good for you. It is one of the greatest purges of citizens conducted in modern times for nothing.

      I am not afraid to point out how China became a fascist nation and is ruled by a oligarchy that regularly purges it ranks. That their military industrial complex continues to grow bringing death and destruction around the world.

      If you recognize that they engage in imperialism and genocide that is good. Like any modern garbage government it is about power and control not what is the best policies for the people. We can see wealth inequality dramatically increasing leading to a two-tired society much like all fascist capitalist countries.

      Their partnership with the US, which is the most destructive country in history, intertwined their economies and helped increase the power and control of the ruling class in the US and produce the wealth used to subjugate the world under fascist rule.

      Maybe some day the Chinese people will get the government they deserve, for now they are stuck with a government ran by a corrupt oligarchy.

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        5 hours ago

        So much projection. Literally you just see a bad thing about the US and accuse China of it based on nothing

        Let’s ignore recent history because if you go back you see the enormous loss of life due to shitty policies backed up by propaganda and lies.

        Is there a statute of limitations? If a country is at peace for a hundred years, but it was at war before that, is it “cherry picking” to point that out? What about a thousand years? Absolutely ridiculous, just full on comical.

        If you have come to terms that China’s ruling party engaged in a cultural revolution costing millions of lives to just become what they literally fought against that is good for you

        Do you actually know anything about the cultural revolution? Much of the violence and chaos was caused by independent, student-led militias. Naturally, there were calls for the central government to provide a greater degree of stability afterward.

        Also, completely failed to answer my question. Were the reforms an improvement or do you prefer how things were under Mao? It has to be one or the other, or else you’re speaking in bad faith (which you obviously are).

        If you recognize that they engage in imperialism and genocide that is good.

        I don’t believe claims without evidence, no.

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          4 hours ago

          What part of the US is the most destructive country on the planet do you not get you fascist apologist.

          Ohh suddenly we can hold the US for all of its atrocities but China gets a magic reset because of yet another authoritarian regime change. Get the fuck out of here with more apologist garbage.

          Pretending evidence doesn’t exist when the Chinese government openly admits to what they do including the transfers of arms is bullshit.

          You don’t consider a slow burn genocide like the US continues to perpetrate against the Native Americans as something China does with its Muslim population, I get it. This denialism of imperial actions is a classic sign of someone who does not care about human rights.

          You also have not explained why fascist China is okay but US fascism is bad. I guess just as long as your teams fascism taste better. I can’t even with people who don’t care about anything but their camp.

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            4 hours ago

            Were the reforms an improvement or do you prefer how things were under Mao?

            Really simple question, and this is the third time I’ve asked it. And you will ignore it for a third time, because you types have no answer to it.

            I have no interest in engaging with any of that complete nonsense you just posted.

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              4 hours ago

              Let me get this straight, you think I approve of the revolution where an authoritarian regime killed countless people to take control of the country for their personal enrichment? I don’t buy into stupid propaganda about communism.

              I think you are a human rights abuser, someone who would willingly betray mankind.

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                Oh, look at that, you ignored the question for a third time, as predicted.

                Were the reforms an improvement or do you prefer how things were under Mao?

                Number 4, let’s go!