• 4am@lemmy.zip
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        23 hours ago

        I’m starting to believe a lot of the bad we hear about China is at best overblown and at worst completely fucking made up.

        Remember all the articles predicting their doom because they built “ghost cities” and “trains to nowhere” and now they’re all actual cities with employed populations and there is high speed rail everywhere?

        Yeah since 9/11 we’ve only had liars in charge seeing how much they can milk all of us, and apparently America really does have great ties because they’re still honkin and we’re still letting em.

        Anyway since we can’t tell what’s true and what’s a lie thanks to the “state dept” propaganda I’m just gonna go ahead and say that the most advanced country on earth is probably way ahead of the USA.

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          13 hours ago

          There are also ghost cities that basically got demolished, like dozens of skyscrapers one after the other.

          Two counties can be bad at the same time, not everything has to be nalck and white. China can suck also when the US sucks. China can even suck despite doing a lot of cool things.

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            13 hours ago

            At least they are trying to solve problems for their people. I’m okay with some ideas failing if they keep working at solutions.

        • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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          22 hours ago

          i have my frustration with the Chinese state appartus, but the one thing you can’t say about them is that they’re incompetent.

          we can get into talks about whether or not the incompetence the modern american governance mechanisms are illusory in service of kleptocracy or not, but ultimately, the American state apparatus is following the same pattern of dynastic rise and fall you see across the nothern hemisphere for the last 16000 years.

          i just hope that for FUCKING once a group will rehash the salt and iron debates and pick salt, like GODDAMMIT why always with the imperialism!?!?

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            12 hours ago

            Wealth. That’s why. It’s money. Simple greed. That is why iron. That is why Imperialism

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          23 hours ago

          Or don’t even try too. Wish they tried to copy infrastructure improvements or high speed rail. All we get is more money to corporations to do absolutely nothing