Closet Cases – Republicans secretly love what they publicly hate So far in 2022, more than 300 anti-LGBT bills have been proposed across 36 states – at least one third of which are directed at trans youth. This surge, especially in anti-trans legislation from Republicans, stands in stark contrast to a startling fact. Republicans love […]
I mean ya… But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle… Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube… Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.
We’re humans and can be easily influenced.
Furthermore I don’t see a mechanism that would support what’s being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you’re saying in context.
… How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they’d oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka “people”).
What does being American have to do with anything?
Provide a source to support what is clearly a biased opinion.
What you’re describing, objectification, is a downstream effect, not a cause. A person would already have to hold anti-trans views to behave the way you’re describing. The bias exists prior to the porn consumption, or that bias may even influence the type of content they seek out.
Roughly 7 out of 10 people in America watch porn at least occasionally. That represents a majority of the population. More than half the country is not anti-trans, which directly undermines your claim about “the perception of trans people.”
The person you are interacting with is trying to browbeat you because they don’t like what you are saying because they have some weird anti-porn beliefs, which frankly, a lot of people do. They themselves are falling trap to the ‘porn corrupts’ anti-sex narrative, while seemingly being critical of anti-sex narratives. I see this all the time.
And they are mad you are suggesting that all media corrupts, and porn isn’t some super special deeply influential thing compared to any other media consumption. You evil porn-normalizer!
The guy is clearly a troll who has no idea what he’s talking about. I went at it with him for a few more exchanges and had to block him. He was more stupid than your average idiot.
I’m talking about you. You are the problematic person in this exchange, especially exhibited by your need to insult and demean the other user because of your refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of their points and push your logical leaps and over-generalization that trans porn consumption is necessarily awful.
Litterally, the trans person who you answered to, only to undermine them.
Yes : “thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.”
“If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to” i am not generalizing, I’m taking about the precise people who’ll both hate trans people in public yet will happily jerk off to trans porn.
Once again, you choose not to understand what is right in front of your eyes, so you’re either:
1)Straight american brainrotten male, 2)autistic and need precise scientific references to believe something (too bad your president has forbidden it). 3) Conservative and incapable of good faith.
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
You are making a very specific claim, so support it. Otherwise you’re just talking out of your ass, which you objectively are.
It is beyond obvious that you have a very strong bias against whatever you believe America is, and you are using the exact same tactic a MAGA conservative uses to support their ideology, which makes you no better. You even brought up autism, which is offensive and completely out of context.
Now, with that said, do you have any way to refute my claim that objectification is a downstream effect of MAGA indoctrination?
Nah, I’m talking as a homosexual man exposed to the same kind of effects than the trans person poster: funjoshi fiction, or how straight women appropriate male homosexuality to make and project their uninformed and socially unrealistic fantasies, make a profit off it and shape the perception of the mass about male homosexuality, erasing centuries of oppression as if we had no history (or were all 14 y.o. cocky teenage girls in adult male bodies). Fiction is not real, but when it’s all you get and accept as a representation of a community, it is bound to influence one’s perception of said community, like propaganda does.
Autism is not offensive, it’s a reality. Some people are autistic and function differently.
Objectification isn’t a product of maga indoctrination, it is a human phenomenon shared by the entirety of the political spectrum. With liberals, for instance, it exists through tokenization of minorities, for a comforting feeling of moral superiority while doing nothing to help. With right-wing people, it allows to deny the humanity of the targeted minority, reinforcing demonization and the creation of an “enemy from within”.
I do have a problem with americans and can’t wait for them to finish crumbling. They’ve hurt the world enough.
Congratulations. No one cares. By admitting you hate Americans, you’ve just undermined everything you claim to stand for. You carry a strong personal bias against an entire population.
Just like the people you claim to despise, you have no moral high ground. You’re no better than the smooth-brained MAGA idiots, and you’re not worth engaging with.
I mean ya… But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle… Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube… Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.
We’re humans and can be easily influenced.
Furthermore I don’t see a mechanism that would support what’s being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you’re saying in context.
… How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?
To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.
If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they’d oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka “people”).
What does being American have to do with anything?
Provide a source to support what is clearly a biased opinion.
What you’re describing, objectification, is a downstream effect, not a cause. A person would already have to hold anti-trans views to behave the way you’re describing. The bias exists prior to the porn consumption, or that bias may even influence the type of content they seek out.
Roughly 7 out of 10 people in America watch porn at least occasionally. That represents a majority of the population. More than half the country is not anti-trans, which directly undermines your claim about “the perception of trans people.”
The person you are interacting with is trying to browbeat you because they don’t like what you are saying because they have some weird anti-porn beliefs, which frankly, a lot of people do. They themselves are falling trap to the ‘porn corrupts’ anti-sex narrative, while seemingly being critical of anti-sex narratives. I see this all the time.
And they are mad you are suggesting that all media corrupts, and porn isn’t some super special deeply influential thing compared to any other media consumption. You evil porn-normalizer!
The guy is clearly a troll who has no idea what he’s talking about. I went at it with him for a few more exchanges and had to block him. He was more stupid than your average idiot.
i think they are just blinded by their hate of republicans as being the source of all evil in the world, like most lemmy users.
Yeah, got it from the “I’m suffering, for x, y and z reasons.” “No you’re not, prove it” vibe.
I’m talking about you. You are the problematic person in this exchange, especially exhibited by your need to insult and demean the other user because of your refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of their points and push your logical leaps and over-generalization that trans porn consumption is necessarily awful.
I never said trans porn or watching porn was awful. It’s not about the content, in that case. It’s about the audience.
What audience?
… Are we commenting on the same topic? In that case, american republicans
Once again, you choose not to understand what is right in front of your eyes, so you’re either:
1)Straight american brainrotten male, 2)autistic and need precise scientific references to believe something (too bad your president has forbidden it). 3) Conservative and incapable of good faith.
You are making a very specific claim, so support it. Otherwise you’re just talking out of your ass, which you objectively are.
It is beyond obvious that you have a very strong bias against whatever you believe America is, and you are using the exact same tactic a MAGA conservative uses to support their ideology, which makes you no better. You even brought up autism, which is offensive and completely out of context.
Now, with that said, do you have any way to refute my claim that objectification is a downstream effect of MAGA indoctrination?
Nah, I’m talking as a homosexual man exposed to the same kind of effects than the trans person poster: funjoshi fiction, or how straight women appropriate male homosexuality to make and project their uninformed and socially unrealistic fantasies, make a profit off it and shape the perception of the mass about male homosexuality, erasing centuries of oppression as if we had no history (or were all 14 y.o. cocky teenage girls in adult male bodies). Fiction is not real, but when it’s all you get and accept as a representation of a community, it is bound to influence one’s perception of said community, like propaganda does.
Autism is not offensive, it’s a reality. Some people are autistic and function differently.
Objectification isn’t a product of maga indoctrination, it is a human phenomenon shared by the entirety of the political spectrum. With liberals, for instance, it exists through tokenization of minorities, for a comforting feeling of moral superiority while doing nothing to help. With right-wing people, it allows to deny the humanity of the targeted minority, reinforcing demonization and the creation of an “enemy from within”.
I do have a problem with americans and can’t wait for them to finish crumbling. They’ve hurt the world enough.
Congratulations. No one cares. By admitting you hate Americans, you’ve just undermined everything you claim to stand for. You carry a strong personal bias against an entire population.
Just like the people you claim to despise, you have no moral high ground. You’re no better than the smooth-brained MAGA idiots, and you’re not worth engaging with.
Good day. I wish your hypocritical ass the best.
What I stand for is not an exclusive american property, so I’m very okay with that. Happy crumbling and supporting your pedo-fascist president!
Hate is hate sir.
You’re no better than my fascist pedo president. Which apparently, by your own admission you have no problem with.
God you’re some kind of troll aren’t you?
Go fuck yourself.