• Bloefz@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    I am honestly not surprised.

    I knew some people in the calvinist bible-belt regions in Holland (they’re very strict, a bit similar to mormon, almost amish-like in terms of strictness except not having any aversion to technology). For example washing a car on sunday is absolutely out of the question and most people wear black those days. If you don’t show up in church the whole village will hate you.

    Anyway so the video rental shops in those regions were buzzing with the worst kinda porn. One of my friends managed video rental shop and he said the relative porn amount was 2-3x bigger than in the city areas.

    This is for people for whom porn is highly illegal according to their religion. Somehow it causes some kind of attraction for them.

    I’m very atheist and sex-positive and very much into kink, polyamory etc but it was never because of the ‘forbidden’ element for me. So I find it hard to understand that. But I’ve definitely seen it being a big thing yes.

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      8 hours ago

      Anything that is taboo is attractive.

      Easiest way to make kids not interested in something is for their parents to do it. Easiest way to get them interested is for their parents to forbid them from it.

      Pot consumption among teens is plummeting, now that it’s legalized and teens see it as something that their lame parents like doing, rather than something cool and illegal.

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        7 hours ago

        Yes the exact same happened here in Holland 30 years ago when it was legalised. It became a deeply uncool “stoner” thing and none of my friends did it.

        Unfortunately the countries around us kept calling hell all those years until it finally became a common thing.

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      8 hours ago

      Christ (and their society) can only forgive those who genuinely regret their sins, so their sins have to be something they genuinely regret. If they watched nice vanilla porn where people treated each other with respect, they might start actually enjoying sexuality, and then they might no longer regret it, and then they are doomed.

      See also how rape fantasies are very popular in women’s erotic media because they absolve the protagonist and reader of having proactive sexual desires. You don’t need a Christian or Abrahamic framing for this, just a situation where people are ostracized for having unsuppressable natural desires. Binge eating, binge watching, doomscrolling, rotting in bed - shame creates perversion.

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        7 hours ago

        I’m not sure if this applies to all denominations. The Calvinists I spoke of don’t do confession and there’s definitely no forgiveness.

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          In Calvinism, the ritual of confession is a man sacriligeously trying to play God. But Jesus stilll died for God’s forgiveness. That’s the fundamental premise of Christianity. It’s just that any priest who claims to intercede on your behalf is a fraud.

          Here’s a website maintained by a Presbyterian Calvinist minister.,

          Ministers can attempt to divine the will of God through the Bible, but they are as much authorities on the matter as physicists are on quantum physics. Ultimately it is your responsibility to understand the will of God, to live accordingly, and to reckon with when you don’t.

          No person can grant you forgiveness; not yourself, not your religious leader, and not your peers, only God can. So yeah, you would see no confession and no forgiveness in a strict Calvinist culture. People can only be forgiven after death by carrying their regrets with them all their lives.

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            3 hours ago

            As I understand it, in Holland they also have a thing called predestination, where they think their lives have already been decided for them including any sins they might commit, and including whether they go to heaven or hell. So there’s nothing really they can do about it during their lives. I don’t know if this is a specific branch. It always sounded pretty grim to me, though on the other hand I would think like “hey let’s go wild because whatever I do it won’t matter anyway”. But I probably grossly misunderstand the idea. Friends from that community have assured me that it definitely does not work that way 😅

            Community also plays a big role in it, much bigger than I’ve seen in Catholicism. As in more judgmentally so.

            I’m neither but I’ve lived in many places :)

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          It’s not about confession. It’s about “Jesus died for your sins”. If his sacrifice “saves” you from your deepest, darkest perversions, the deeper and darker those perversions, the more meaningful the sacrifice.

          Did he die just to save you from the perils of having lusted over an exposed ankle? Or does his sacrifice cover the 20 hours a week you spend fantasizing about hot Asian femboys pounding your tight ass?

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            4 hours ago

            Ah ok I never thought of it that way. That makes sense in a weird way (sorry)

            Ps after 20 hours of ass pounding I’d need more than my soul to be saved 😅

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      9 hours ago

      highly illegal … it causes some kind of attraction

      Go figure… wasn’t there something with Snake Plissken and Apple?