So, on Reddit (not a good place, I know), the most upvoted comment to a post saying “You get a call from a woman and it makes you angry. Who is she?” was “Ellen ‘Degenerate’”. (Their words, not mine). Since it was hugely upvoted, why is she so bad? All I know is that she is a talk show host and a lesbian.

  • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
    5·
    22 hours ago

    Lol, but maybe she just didn’t want to lie. Simpler. You’re right - i bet at that time the idea of “just not drinking” would be ridiculed by the press and general public - but it’s for that reason that Carey might fear she’d get caught up in a bigger lie trying a different excuse.

    • 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
      4·
      22 hours ago

      she’d get caught up in a bigger lie

      how would she get caught in a bigger lie? it is her fucking business when she does or does not want to drink alcohol. and even if she drank alcohol some other time, does not mean she must be in mood for it every waking moment. i know, hindsight is 20/20, but the point is that people need to normalize not getting drunk and not having to explain to anyone why they don’t want to.

      • THB@lemmy.world
        5·
        21 hours ago

        I think the implication is that the other big reason for not drinking that people would jump to is substance abuse. Even if untrue, once the rumor starts it would be out there.

      • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
        2·
        20 hours ago

        but the point is that people need to normalize not getting drunk and not having to explain to anyone why they don’t want to.

        Yeah, they do, but this was in the past. 2008. Article: The Mercury News

        I’d go as far to say that back then people would still have the old fashioned idea that all celebrities are “masterful drinkers” who are allowed one or two glasses of champagne in the middle of the day with ellen degeneres.

        As such, they have narrow-minded views towards sobriety.

        Ergo, Carey’s options are

          1. tell the truth, “I’m pregnant so I don’t want to drink”
          1. Decide that gregnancy is more embarassing than sobriety, and thus just say “Nah I don’t feel like it” - But this is 2008 so perhaps people will start to theorise that she A) “can’t hold her liquor” or B) had a close friend/family member succumb to alcohol issues, which might lead to paparazzi, or C) decide that she’s pregnant anyway. Celebrities do not like inviting more scrutiny unto themselves, so route 1 beats route 2
          1. (lie) Make up a compelling reason - “I’m a mormon/methodist/muslim,” “I’m observing a religious festival,” “I’m doing a dry month to support someone/charity,” "my friend lost their life from alcohol - " All of these lead to more lies or more questions later down the line.

        #1 is true, short, and something people would have found out anyway.