• ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
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        Career judges with a strong oversight board.

        With the exception of the US, all other developed countries rely exclusively on them, and, for the most part, have a better justice system.

        Comparison between US data show that elected judges will decide cases differently based on distance to the elections (I.e. they will more heavy handed closer to elections). That’s not justice, it’s bringing mob mentality to the courts.

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          It also becomes a larger issue in the USA because 49 states have a common law system where previous rulings affect future rulings. Elected judges are more likely to go against previous rulings, affecting how the law is applied.

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            Your argument boils down to: we can’t fix our broken system because our system is broken.

            You’re either a right wing troll trying to convince people that nothing can be done, or you’ve internalized the nihilism they try to implant.

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              Allowing politicians to select judges leads us to ruin at this point in time. Maybe not in canada, yet, ya hoser, but in the US for sure. It is laughable to think that allowing the system to appoint judges would work better.

              Look at the UK right now! Look at it! How is that working by the way? Or do you not even know they are cancelling the magna carta as we speak?

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        We/They, or at least somebody, elects the person(s) who hires/chooses/manage the judges. I’d settle for a “rate your judge” jury system, even.

        Obligatory “End FPTP” when I mention voting, because it’s foundational to all voting issues.

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        16 hours ago

        “Nothing can be done to solve this, says only nation where this regularly happens”

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          Levearging an onion article doesn’t make your argument here. I mean I could accuse the homosexual industrial complex that eisenhower warned us about, what with their pernicious influence, in referencing another onion article, but it doesn’t quite fit does it? That’s a satire article, a joke, so don’t pretend to get offended under false pretense.

          Electing our judges and politicians gives us a chance to take them back, giving that power to politicians and their appointees is surrendering it. We are so far passed where we can trust the system. So far.

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            This is “nottheonion,” dumbass. It means it’s not the onion.

            This isn’t a satire comm. The articles shared here are true stories.

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            The fact it’s satire doesn’t make it untrue, and we have plenty of statistics to back it up, but it seems the only thing Americans like more than complaining about their broken system is insisting that any change at all would make it worse.

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              14 hours ago

              Are you arguing that surrendering the appointment of judges and prosecutors to politicians and their appointees would lead to better outcomes in the United States?

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                i can’t tell if you’re arguing against chevron or regulatory capture. regulatory capture = bad, right? chevron (short bad summary: appointed agencies have expert opinions because they’re staffed by experts, so treat them as expert) = good, if the agency isn’t captured by the industry it’s trying to regulate, right? are we at the same starting point and assumptions or are you coming from somewhere else?

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                  I was under the impression we are arguing about the wisdom of changing the system in America where we elect judges and prosecutors, which was instituted in the mid 19th century, to one where politicians and their appointees simply appoint them as is done in most of the world. I am virulently arguing that allowing our politicians and establishment to appoint judges and prosecutors would lead vastly worse outcomes.

                  That the rot in our institutions has spread throughout, and even if you think it works in another country well, it won’t here.

                  Really it is laughable to think it would be better, despite your hundreds of supporters on here. Ha, hahaha. People are fucking stupid. No offense.