• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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          5 hours ago

          I don’t know how you people don’t get tired of the same boring ass gotchas every day. We get it. You hate everyone who doesn’t have your exact political beliefs.

          Anyone who gives a shit that you despise anyone to the right of you is not someone whose opinion I give a flying fuck about.

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        17 hours ago

        I’m sure it’s theoretically possible to not want to pay your fair share of taxes, while not dunking on any particular minority.

        It’s rare though.

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          It’s always just selfishness with conservatives. It’s not complicated, they’re just selfish assholes through and through. If you wanna know what a conservative will do, just imagine the most selfish move and voila.

          Children starving or an extra $50 in property taxes, guess what the conservative picks every single time!

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            It’s surprising how quickly they come as well.

            I’ve seen perfectly normal people go from “I felt a bit ill after that COVID vaccination, I’ll look it up online” to spreading fake stories about immigrants and having opinions about Hunter Biden. Within months. They’re not even American.

            This shit’s a fucking virus, and social media is the vector.

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        The people you disagree with are far right… or far left, depending upon your political orientation.

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              You said one thing. Put on your thinking cap, I’m sure even you can figure that one out.

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                I don’t get the hostility. It seemed like a pretty uncontroversial observation to me. Nobody complains about “the left”, they complain about “the far left”; nobody complains about “the right”, they complain about “the far right”. Anybody with two brain cells to rub together can observe this.

                I have no idea why this would upset anybody, but it seems like I’ve triggered some people. Unless you’re just bots, in which case: deuces.

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                  If you want a genuine answer, people are upset because you’re expressing a centrist opinion. Centrism more or less advocates for maintaining the status quo. The status quo sucks for most people.

                  You’re also equating the far left with the far right. To understand why this is upsetting, we can look at some basic definitions. If someone is on the Left, they are generally in favor of more equality, while those on the right want more hierarchy. Equality and hierarchy are opposites. You can see this in a more concrete way by comparing the goals of far-left organizations to the goals of far-right ones.

                  I think a lot of the confusion comes from the Cold War. Countries like the USSR and China would claim to have far-left intentions while acting in right-wing ways. You cannot achieve left-wing goals through right-wing action.

                  Even the term “Communist country” is an oxymoron, because Communism advocates for a stateless society, and governments never voluntarily give up power.

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                    That’s funny, because complaining about the “far left” or the “far right” sounds centrist to me. It’s like you’re saying “Oh, the people closer to the center are okay. It’s those crazy extremists I have a problem with!”

                    If you’re anti-left or anti-right, just own it ffs. I consider myself a leftist, so I don’t bother specifying whether something I disagree with is “far right” or not; it’s all just right-wing to me. If the people on the right want to distance themselves from the extremists on their side, that’s their business. I’m not gonna make that determination for them.

                    That weaselly way of talking reminds me of people like Gavin Newsom who finds ICE distasteful but supports discriminating against trans women in sports. No doubt he finds the former position “far right”, but the latter one is just common sense or some nonsense. Both of those stances are extremist!

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        the majority of people are not far right.

        the issue is that people who are far right, are far more likely to run for office than moderate candidates are. and run better campaigns, and win more votes.

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          I don’t know. I ask because I cannot explain anyone even tolerating Trump’s actions in any way unless they are far right. I still know people defending his actions… Anyone opposing him in any way, the rest of America thinks is “far left”. So it’s a weird time…

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            You are captured by the false media narrative that you are one thing or the other.

            The vast majority of voters are neither far right or far left. They are moderate. However, moderate people dont’ get any airtime because the extremists here, and everywhere else, paint everyone as either FOR or AGAIN things.

            Moderate voters went for Trump because he offered them a better platform to vote for, especially economically. And Trump’s tanking now that his policies are showing to be horrible. But he has 2.5 more years in office.

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              They’re not moderate, they’re the people who will say “they just need to drop a bomb on that neighborhood” talking about the black neighborhood of course. They love acting moderate in public but they really want genocide against brown people and they want poor people without healthcare to be left in the street to die. Trump is doing exactly what they’ve been saying in private for decades.

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                  Im really not, that’s the average US voter. Idk yeah you can call them far right but then half the country is far right. And his point was that it’s a false media narrative. Completely backwards, it’s literally the mainstream media that works extremely hard to sell these “far right” positions as moderate.

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                    Yeah, you’re absolutely buying into the propaganda. The average voter is not saying we should bomb black neighborhoods, the far right is. The far right is not half the country. You’re being led to believe it is because the far right has captured mainstream media and are trying to lead you to believe that their position is the moderate one, but its all smoke and mirrors. You’ve bought their propaganda hook, line, and sinker.