• Orbituary@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Yep. Thanks for mentioning it. Wasserman Schultz and her cronies gave old Sanders the shaft after HRC paid off the DNC debt.

    “Democracy.”

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      9 months ago

      Imagine if Bernie had broken with the party. There’s a good chance he could’ve attracted a lot of otherwise disillusioned people and formed a real, viable third party candidate.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah but then enlightened centrists would have blamed him for Clinton’s loss, and used it to push the party further right.

        Oh wait, they did that anyway.

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        9 months ago

        Regretfully, our system is designed against us, and has been further corrupted over the years. So, no, there wouldn’t have been any positive outcome from that type of action.

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          9 months ago

          They accuse middle-right Biden of being a socialist constantly, for a huge part of America it’s the worst slur you can be called.

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                9 months ago

                I think maybe you might be the one who gets it in the morning. You’ve internalized the framing sold to you by establishment media and can’t seem to see past it. You have no understanding of how a socialist can do better than a centrist in red states, so you reject what polling tells us is true.

                Most of the ire directed at “socialists” comes from the association of Socialists and Democrats with elitism. Actual Socialists are not elitist and can speak to the actual needs of voters in a way that centrists do not.

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                  9 months ago

                  I keep hearing this, and I still don’t get it. So red state voters have only two modes: socialist or libertarian-capitalist?

                  If what they “really” want is socialism, then why don’t they vote for center-left candidates when they have the chance? Nobody’s going to believe you want $100 if you keep sending death threats to the one person offering you $50.

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                    9 months ago

                    Maybe people are more complicated than something that can be measured across a single dimension?

                    Socialist concepts actually sell a whole lot better in red states than blue, even as the word itself doesn’t. Farmers co-ops are extremely common. VFW halls in rural areas are often busy social centers. Poorer areas like those around abandoned coal mines are totally dependent on federal aid. Such areas care a hell of a lot more about issues than labels.

                    Take a look on YouTube for some old videos of Bernie doing town halls in the deep south. That will tell you a lot more than I could.