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Fantastic news. Every major destination should commit to banning these monstrosities until they all disappear.
Hoenslty it’s a better way to cross the ocean than planes, climate wise
https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2006/dec/20/cruises.green
Not at all. This article is 17 years old and planes have only gotten more efficient whilst the same old cruise ships continue to so the seas.
Plus a more recent article
https://www.treehugger.com/what-is-greener-boat-vs-plane-emissions-5185547
This is green washing. Making planes burn less fuel is nice, but it doesn’t change the physics of burning them St high altitude.
The only way to fix that is to burn lower to the ground. Ships will always be more environmental friendly way to cross oceans.
Source please? This is not how my understanding of physics works
Literally read the link above. They mention the issues of nitrogen oxides exponentionally fucking up the atmosphere when burned at high altitude, but they they totally leave that out when calculating only co2 in the conclusion
Vacationing on a cruise ship is like being trapped in a floating mall. When they do let you out of the mall, the shore excursions are often trips to a smaller mall.
I’ve been on two cruises and I’ve stated my opinion.
I didn’t state at all that one should not like a cruise or a mall for that matter. To each is own.
If you don’t like them, don’t go. Also some are better than others at not feeling like a mall. Some folks enjoy casinos and bars and the ship takes you to new destinations. The ship itself is the core destination and if you don’t go into it thinking than then you won’t enjoy yourself.
Ignoring very subjective tastes, they’re pretty shit for the environment regardless.
Oh yea no argument there. Some of the new ships with LNG are pretty interesting. Another big problem is flying a flag of convenience and bad labor practices.
Amsterdam is really trying to transition away from being a tourism destination.
They don’t care, because they already have one of the most livable cities on the planet. Locals over tourists.
Would be great if we succeed, tourism is only a relatively small part of the economy here.
@HobbitFoot @BrikoX They are transitioning away from that kind of tourists that they don’t want - for obvious reasons. These cruise ship tourists are normally having few hours for the town. So they won’t have time to really discover the city, visiting the museums, taking their time in some small restaurant, … Instead they are carried through the city mostly by bus (I assume) and are pressed through some hand picked attractions.
Also, the people that stay for a few hours or a single night tend to be more reckless and less mindful of local laws and etiquette.
Lucky I just hit Amsterdam up on a Iceland/Norway cruise in June. It’s a beautiful city and port and will be missed. There are not too many cruise ports that are in the heart of the city.
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Now do cars
Parking in the city center of Amsterdam will cost you more than 60 euro for a full day. But if you park at the edge of the city, close to the highway exit and next to a metro station, it will cost you 1 euro.
While it is no outright ban, it is one of the various ways the city is pushing cars away from the center.
The Netherlands is the most bike friendly country in the world.
what percentage of the port cities economy that the cruise ships stop at is driven by the cruise ship passengers? might be a net bad thing
So allegedly cruise tourists eat all meals on board the boat since it’s free as well as sleep there, so they spend very little compared to other tourists.
Amsterdam? Have you ever read a book?
do porno mags count?
clearly not
Will they ban planes next?
Government just lost a court case, forcing a reduction of flights into and out of their main airport.
https://www.ft.com/content/16597642-2ec2-4c3f-9264-7f51b8b96701
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