Russia violated Poland’s airspace early on Sunday with a cruise missile launched at targets in western Ukraine, Poland’s armed forces said.
Russia launched 57 missiles and drones on Ukraine in the early hours, including attacking Kyiv and the western region of Lviv that is near the Polish border.
The fuck are you talking about?
If someone’s lobbing missiles over your territory at someone else, and you say “fucking stop that or I’ll shoot them down”, and it doesn’t stop, and you shoot them down, that’s not escalation to nuclear war. That’s just doing something you said you were going to do.
Walking on eggshells around Russia and Putin is how to lose this war and the one after it. Everyone being too afraid and uncertain to do anything in response is the exact geopolitical geopolitical calculus that Putin is relying on.
Putin an old school KGB hardliner. He worked tightly with the Stasi in East Germany. In an adversarial situation, those types respond to force and threats of force, and that’s it. It’s dismaying how many people simply refuse to understand or believe that.
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Funny, NATO member Turkey shot down a Russian jet, killing a pilot, and nothing fucking happened. That’s an actual fact unlike your opinion masqueraded as fact. Maybe you should look in the mirror before slinging insults.
No, it’s not a fact. You can’t just say a thing, suffix it with a statement that “it’s just a fact”, and then just expect everyone to take that at face value. State your sources; make your argument. But I and others are under no obligation to take your word as gospel if we judge it as nonsense. Which at this point, I still do.
The fact that you started off with an ad hominem attack indicates to me that you’re not seriously participating in this discussion, and that you’re likely arguing in bad faith, so you’re definitely not winning any points there.
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I don’t care what you upvote. I’m just trying to point out that you’re being a dick, and the fact that you’re being a dick is diminishing any argument you’re trying to make.
If you want to have an actual discussion, we can do that. But your responses aren’t conducive to a discussion, and when presented with potential counterpoints, you responded with personal attacks and dogmatic, dated, Kissinger-esque “great power” geopolitical calculus (that most policy-makers in the world these days have realized isn’t how the world actually works anymore, if it ever did), which makes me think you’re more interested in trying to “dunk” on someone than actually discussing the situation.
By all means, I encourage you to prove me wrong and actually have a discussion. I enjoy debating the implications of geopolitical issues in our modern world. But you should know that I also enjoy undercutting and pointing out bad-faith arguments… so in the context of this interaction, I’m having fun either way.
I’m sure we could all manage to read 1 or 2 sources and comprehend them in relation to your argument. Don’t feel the need to dumb it down for us morons
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They have piles and piles of red lines others crossed where all they did was bitch. Russia isn’t even issuing a red line here, don’t add one for them.
Russia ain’t going to do shit. Being paralyzed in the face of a bully only encourages them.