• goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
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    9 months ago

    Got it you just don’t like people pointing out Bidens flaws.

    In total, 1,941 Jewish and 414 Muslim respondents participated in this survey.

    I mean yeah totally fair to use it as representative population but not like pew research is the best, or polls have been very accurate in the last few years.

    And again you can’t say

    7.6 million Jewish Americans who still heavily lean in support of Israeli actions.

    When thats more than the entire population in the states (and surprisingly more than the population of Israel)

    https://www.jewishagency.org/jewish-population-rises-to-15-7-million-worldwide-in-2023/

    Finally let’s suppose all of the Jewish people are going to be mad at Biden for stopping support of Israel due to them committing genocide, who would they vote for? They’d have the same issue as everyone else and have to bite their tongue and vote for Biden.

    But hey, just one legit (or illegitimate false-flag) terrorist attack post-revocation of aid to Israel — and tell me, what happens to Biden and Democrats’ chances then…?

    At this point who cares about Israel? It’s clear they aren’t making Jewish people safer, and those who would participate in the election are Americans

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      9 months ago

      Got it you just don’t like people pointing out Bidens flaws.

      Incorrect. I just don’t like people shooting themselves in the foot or having tunnel-vision without seeing the bigger picture.

      but not like pew research is the best, or polls have been very accurate in the last few years.

      hahahah what the hell are you saying? You think PEW is flawed? Do tell how. Do you even understand how statistics work? I bet you didn’t even look at their methodology let alone MoE.

      When thats more than the entire population in the states (and surprisingly more than the population of Israel)

      Who cares? Whether it’s 6.7 million “by some estimates,” or 7.6 million “by some estimates.” — that in no way changes my point, but good on you for digging in the weeds out of complete irrelevance.

      Finally let’s suppose all of the Jewish people are going to be mad at Biden for stopping support of Israel due to them committing genocide, who would they vote for? They’d have the same issue as everyone else and have to bite their tongue and vote for Biden.

      Well now we’ve come full-circle. The same question can be posed to Biden by his staff by asking, “What will tankies and the left do, vote for Trump? Not vote? Vote 3rd party? See how that worked out for their agenda when literally every progressive advancement came on the backs of the Democratic party and every reversal thereof came from Republicans.” So between the two groups, which will Biden choose to risk less, the bigger voting population, or the smaller voting population?

      Unfortunately there are a lot of swing-voters out there, too, who haven’t had their minds made up. Until they fall into a camp, the Biden administration is going to toe the line to ensure such voters are still reachable.

      At this point who cares about Israel? It’s clear they aren’t making Jewish people safer, and those who would participate in the election are Americans

      Not talking about Israel. I’m talking about the relentless propaganda campaign about, “How Biden is an antisemite and jeopardized the safety of Jewish people of Israel by taking away their self-defense.” This would be repeated across all right-wing outlets, not to mention the massive amount of foreign interference that is already occurring by Israeli and Russian operatives.