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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

In Ukraine, Killings of Surrendering Russians Divide an American-Led Unit

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In Ukraine, Killings of Surrendering Russians Divide an American-Led Unit

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nekandro@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
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A German medic said he was so troubled that he confronted his commander. Others boasted about killings in a group chat.
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    I know the mental gymnastics are strong, but only one side in this war sided with the Nazis, and it wasn’t the US

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      deleted by creator

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        Edit as example, or clue: See inset image of parade banner.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_military_parade_in_Brest-Litovsk

        That said, anyone, including Ukrainians who are doing these things should be brought to justice. No exceptions.

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        This is one of the US’s partners in the war:

        America loves Nazis, whether they’re Ukrainian Neonazis or Zionazis.

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          The war is a classic example of fascist infighting

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            Fascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn’t really infighting, that’s just like, regular fighting.

            Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn’t total victory, though.

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              Yeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate.

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                Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.

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                  That’s right and as long as US and western allies keep up with deliveries there is a chance for Ukraine to achieve its objectives.

                  Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

                  Before you get bent out of shape about it is in possible…

                  Recent history does demonstrate that invading country that faces a determined opposition will generally have to go home with their dicks tucked.

                  How long can Russia spin this shot at home esp as Ukraine is striking critical assets deep within Russia.

                  And the west hasn’t even given Ukraine the best shit and permission to use it as needed.

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                    Ideally leading to Russian collapse.

                    Cool so you want a nuclear war.

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                    Okay Brzezinski. Russia hardly faces a determined opposition: it faces a dwindling supply of forced conscripts.

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          This one always hurts the tankie

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

          Sheepooh is da greatest tho!

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            ??? Why would old collaborators (of which decidents were justly punished later) hurt “the tankie”?

            Better mention banderites who ran off to the west where they were sucking up to CIA, MI6 and West German washed-nazi intelligence while murdering people left and right (in Germany, after war no less). it’s even in the wiki too.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact

              what about this one?

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                Hey liberal, I’m a little fuzzy on dates. Did this happen before or after the Munich agreement? Before or after Stalin tried to ally with Britain and France against the Nazis?

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          New Operation Gladio

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      The Ukrainians?

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      Is this a joke?

      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part I: The Origins of the OUN 1917-1941
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part II: The OUN during World War 2, 1941-1945
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part III: 1944-1963 UPA War, Ratlines, and the Assassination of Stepan Bandera
      • History of Fascism in Ukraine Part IV: The Global OUN Network in Exile, 1962-1992
      • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
      • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
      • AP, 2014: Airstrike in eastern Ukraine kills 11 civilians
      • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
      • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
      • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
      • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
      • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
      • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
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      Ukraine is fighting to end the small portion of skinheads in its ranks, Russia is endorsing and supporting their own to this day.

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