Ah yes, you know what’s better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.
Yeah, but you’re ignoring one thing. I don’t have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn’t talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.
Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.
Multiple people have already died in San Francisco due to these trash heaps. I can think of at least 2 confirmed incidents where the robo-taxis and their inability to deal with unusual situations has gotten people killed. One was very direct in which the car ran over a pedestrian, and another was somewhat indirect but still clearly responsible. San Francisco has notoriously narrow streets and 1 or 2 (I can’t remember specifically at the moment) robo-taxis blocked a roadway and prevented an ambulance from getting to a patient that died before they arrived because of the delay.
In both instances, they didn’t have passengers, so I think that made them a lower priority for the human interventions.
And California is still dragging its heels on cracking down on this bullshit. Someone rich will have to die first. Poor people don’t count.
I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say “im forced to take public transit” like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.
My father when he visits the city to see me refuses to use the subway, even though it’s a five minute ride from where he parks his car - he ubers instead. It’s because he is frightened being trapped in a box with the poors.
When i got into work, coworkers asked me how i got in and i said Subway, they joked about having to avoid getting stabbed.
My friends are voting conservative in the upcoming election because they’ve seen too many poor people on the street engaging in anti-social behaviour (being drunk, and talking loud)
mindblowing that people think you just get stabbed all the time on the subway. I live in Toronto and have taken buses, trains, streetcars, the SRT and the subway. The only complaint i have had is that I wish there was more funding for public transit to improve service. I have seen drunks and homeless people on the subway/bus/streetcar before, but never have had a problem. What people SHOULD be making an issue about is how these people end up in this situations, and how we can help them, and also be proactive and avoid it from happening in the future to more people.
The job post also notes that such a teleoperation center requires “building highly optimized low latency reliable data streaming over unreliable transports in the real world.” Tele-operators can be “transported” into the robotaxi via a “state-of-the-art VR rig,” it adds.
Sounds an awful lot like they’re going to need someone to remote pilot those cars when they get stuck. It also sounds like the system will have at least some latency, and will probably rely entirely on cameras, since Musk doesn’t build LiDAR or other non-visual sensors into his cars anymore! Anyway, sorry if that disrupts your, “I’m a sad dork who feels the need to defend the world’s richest man even though he makes hundreds of stupid, childish decisions that are clearly detrimental to the companies he owns,” agenda.
Ah yes, you know what’s better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.
also one that has no personal stake in the safety of their driving
Yeah, but you’re ignoring one thing. I don’t have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn’t talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.
Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.
Nah it’ll be in the terms and conditions that he’s not personally responsible for any damages/injuries.
Yes, that’s one aspect but we’re talking California here. Tar and feathering and legislation will soon follow.
Multiple people have already died in San Francisco due to these trash heaps. I can think of at least 2 confirmed incidents where the robo-taxis and their inability to deal with unusual situations has gotten people killed. One was very direct in which the car ran over a pedestrian, and another was somewhat indirect but still clearly responsible. San Francisco has notoriously narrow streets and 1 or 2 (I can’t remember specifically at the moment) robo-taxis blocked a roadway and prevented an ambulance from getting to a patient that died before they arrived because of the delay.
In both instances, they didn’t have passengers, so I think that made them a lower priority for the human interventions.
And California is still dragging its heels on cracking down on this bullshit. Someone rich will have to die first. Poor people don’t count.
People who don’t drive themselves will be responsible for the UI of all this.
This really just comes down to people in a certain income brackets are uncomfortable being in close contact with a working class person.
That’s why they don’t like trains, that’s why they don’t like taxis.
I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say “im forced to take public transit” like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.
My father when he visits the city to see me refuses to use the subway, even though it’s a five minute ride from where he parks his car - he ubers instead. It’s because he is frightened being trapped in a box with the poors.
When i got into work, coworkers asked me how i got in and i said Subway, they joked about having to avoid getting stabbed.
My friends are voting conservative in the upcoming election because they’ve seen too many poor people on the street engaging in anti-social behaviour (being drunk, and talking loud)
It’s fucking insanity to me.
mindblowing that people think you just get stabbed all the time on the subway. I live in Toronto and have taken buses, trains, streetcars, the SRT and the subway. The only complaint i have had is that I wish there was more funding for public transit to improve service. I have seen drunks and homeless people on the subway/bus/streetcar before, but never have had a problem. What people SHOULD be making an issue about is how these people end up in this situations, and how we can help them, and also be proactive and avoid it from happening in the future to more people.
It’s a good thing that’s not what’s happening, but I guess that doesn’t help the “Musk Bad” agenda
Sounds an awful lot like they’re going to need someone to remote pilot those cars when they get stuck. It also sounds like the system will have at least some latency, and will probably rely entirely on cameras, since Musk doesn’t build LiDAR or other non-visual sensors into his cars anymore! Anyway, sorry if that disrupts your, “I’m a sad dork who feels the need to defend the world’s richest man even though he makes hundreds of stupid, childish decisions that are clearly detrimental to the companies he owns,” agenda.