The president was given the medal to look at by Gianni Infantino while handing others out to the winning squad, though Trump later tucked it into his suit blazer
If you have credible evidence saying it was only gifted retroactively, please link it. The video evidence does not appear support that interpretation of events.
I have linked a video showing what actually happened, linked a verified signatory of the International Fact Checking Network and member of the European Fact-Checking Standards Network saying that it was given to him and that the submitted headline is misleading, and your response is “don’t be naive”.
Are you guys fucking for real? What the fuck even counts as credible evidence to you anymore!?
Accepting whatever makes “the other side” look bad instead of fighting for the truth is the reason we’re in this thread talking about that dipshit [Trump]. I’m not sure I’ll ever understand why the fuck people in this thread fighting against that so hard
it’s great you have morals and integrity, but there’s a time and place for that.
when dealing with fascist pedophile scumbags that continue to corrupt society, leave the gloves at home. otherwise, you’re only supporting those same scumbags who continue to rape and pillage.
in a fight to the death there is no such thing as a clean fight, only survival.
Okay, in do-or-die wartime I can accept some suppression of the truth.
If you genuinely believe the situation in the US is so bad and analogous to wartime that it’s worth spreading and supporting lies for the sake of “winning” then you need to stop wasting your time commenting on nottheonion posts and go figure out how to win. At the very least don’t waste time talking to people like me who spend time on truth, set up an automated posting farm and flood the entire internet with anti-Trump propaganda with no attention wasted on what’s true or otherwise ethical or moral.
If it’s not that bad and you can afford to piss away time here then you can still afford the truth.
Pick a consistent position and take actions that align with whatever you pick, but don’t try to have your cake and eat it too, it just comes across as hypocrisy to the rest of us. I hope to either see you around or not see you for a few years – and nothing in-between.
I got a job and bills to pay dude. in what universe would I have the time to build out a bot farm that rivals the Russian propaganda machine built on the backs of millions with unlimited funds?
get real.
the only way I can make a difference is by coming on lemmy and pissing on your shoe.
Do you not understand how PR works? If they gave it to him, the President of the United States, who was literally there in person, do you really think he would have just slyly pocketed it? Or do you think they would have said, “we are giving this to you”?
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a good example of how certain people come to believe in conspiracy theories.
They are faced with a seemingly overwhelming argument that destroys some fictional narrative they chose in their head, probably because they misremember or misunderstood some basic fact behind that narrative in the past (like not listening to a thing during math and sciences classes).
Re-evaluation of all the facts in light of new information would be too taxing, and probably lead to an undesirable outcome even if completed successfully (like realising they were wrong, and possibly start questioning themselves), so a different strategy is employed.
This consists of cherry picking a very minute aspect of a bigger picture (here, that trump puts the medal in his pocket) and spin a whole narrative around it.
This works surprisingly well, at least for them, since their brain has either forgotten the conflicting facts, or outright fails to recognise their glaring ignorance about all other possibilities to explain that minute aspect differently (like the fact that the guy handing over the medal to trump is talking to him, in what looks very much like the act of gifting him the medal).
Where this unfortunately breaks down is when other people, not so reality-impared, challenge them by pointing out the glaring factual omissions.
This is usually seen as a personal attack, like they’re being called out individually and being called unpleasant things (which can be usually the case), and will respond by questioning the other person’s character, intelligence and/or intentions.
If you have credible evidence saying it was only gifted retroactively, please link it. The video evidence does not appear support that interpretation of events.
Yes it does learn human interaction.
The guy asks for it back, goes it the pocket and he shrugs it off.
That’s not giving it stupido
Why wouldn’t they announce it ahead of time, or during the ceremony?
Don’t be naive.
I have linked a video showing what actually happened, linked a verified signatory of the International Fact Checking Network and member of the European Fact-Checking Standards Network saying that it was given to him and that the submitted headline is misleading, and your response is “don’t be naive”.
Are you guys fucking for real? What the fuck even counts as credible evidence to you anymore!?
How many leaders of the host country got a medal before him?
Will they hand them out to future hosts as well?
Bingo question of the year.
why are you trying so hard to support a convicted rapist and suspected pedophile?
Accepting whatever makes “the other side” look bad instead of fighting for the truth is the reason we’re in this thread talking about that dipshit [Trump]. I’m not sure I’ll ever understand why the fuck people in this thread fighting against that so hard
it’s great you have morals and integrity, but there’s a time and place for that.
when dealing with fascist pedophile scumbags that continue to corrupt society, leave the gloves at home. otherwise, you’re only supporting those same scumbags who continue to rape and pillage.
in a fight to the death there is no such thing as a clean fight, only survival.
Okay, in do-or-die wartime I can accept some suppression of the truth.
If you genuinely believe the situation in the US is so bad and analogous to wartime that it’s worth spreading and supporting lies for the sake of “winning” then you need to stop wasting your time commenting on nottheonion posts and go figure out how to win. At the very least don’t waste time talking to people like me who spend time on truth, set up an automated posting farm and flood the entire internet with anti-Trump propaganda with no attention wasted on what’s true or otherwise ethical or moral.
If it’s not that bad and you can afford to piss away time here then you can still afford the truth.
Pick a consistent position and take actions that align with whatever you pick, but don’t try to have your cake and eat it too, it just comes across as hypocrisy to the rest of us. I hope to either see you around or not see you for a few years – and nothing in-between.
I got a job and bills to pay dude. in what universe would I have the time to build out a bot farm that rivals the Russian propaganda machine built on the backs of millions with unlimited funds?
get real.
the only way I can make a difference is by coming on lemmy and pissing on your shoe.
Do you not understand how PR works? If they gave it to him, the President of the United States, who was literally there in person, do you really think he would have just slyly pocketed it? Or do you think they would have said, “we are giving this to you”?
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a good example of how certain people come to believe in conspiracy theories.
They are faced with a seemingly overwhelming argument that destroys some fictional narrative they chose in their head, probably because they misremember or misunderstood some basic fact behind that narrative in the past (like not listening to a thing during math and sciences classes).
Re-evaluation of all the facts in light of new information would be too taxing, and probably lead to an undesirable outcome even if completed successfully (like realising they were wrong, and possibly start questioning themselves), so a different strategy is employed.
This consists of cherry picking a very minute aspect of a bigger picture (here, that trump puts the medal in his pocket) and spin a whole narrative around it.
This works surprisingly well, at least for them, since their brain has either forgotten the conflicting facts, or outright fails to recognise their glaring ignorance about all other possibilities to explain that minute aspect differently (like the fact that the guy handing over the medal to trump is talking to him, in what looks very much like the act of gifting him the medal).
Where this unfortunately breaks down is when other people, not so reality-impared, challenge them by pointing out the glaring factual omissions.
This is usually seen as a personal attack, like they’re being called out individually and being called unpleasant things (which can be usually the case), and will respond by questioning the other person’s character, intelligence and/or intentions.
Oh, and downvoting.
Fuck off, troll.