• Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 hours ago

    the government is made up of some of the greediest fucks alive who’re upset when that money is in the hands of someone that isn’t them

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    7 hours ago

    Personal, business and government spending are all entirely different things.

    Using one to think about the other makes very little sense.

  • zxqwas@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Their spending is someone else’s income that is then taxed that is then spent that is then taxed.

    Responsibly used some government debt is good. It helps growing the wealth of it’s people both now and in the future.

    Irresponsibly used it’s a headache for the next generation.

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    13 hours ago

    Government spending is private savings.

    Worrying that the government will run out of money is like worrying a basketball referee will run out of points to give for baskets.

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    14 hours ago

    Government debt and household debt are not the same thing. The politicians know better but they know people don’t. So they really lay it on thick to equate the two things.

    Your debt isn’t creating jobs or industries. Government debt does. You’re not able to sell your debt. Government can.

    I think technically, there isn’t a ceiling for how much debt a country can take on as long as it’s growing. It’s not great, but also I don’t think it’s as bad as people think

  • cecilkorik@lemmy.ca
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    12 hours ago

    You’re trying to use logic to understand it but you also have to understand that the only actual logic about it is the logic we’ve intentionally applied to it, by choice. Money only has the meaning we give it.

    It makes more sense when you realize it’s all fiction. It’s just a game we play our whole lives because so many of us are very competitive and the ones who aren’t still have to compete against the ones who are, and at the highest levels of national policy they’re not even playing the same game anyway. They’re using it to metagame against other countries.

    • Don_Dickle@lemmy.worldOP
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      10 hours ago

      no because i can add and subtract…and sometimes if I am in the mood I will multiply…but feeling really slippery when wet I will divide

  • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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    14 hours ago

    Because if you can make the currency you pay back the loan with worth less than what you borrowed, you gain. That’s why they want some inflation.

    Problems happen when you keep borrowing more and more each year, and also do stupid shit that shakes the faith of those lending you money in your ability to pay it back

  • theneverfox@pawb.social
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    14 hours ago

    Because the government doesn’t have a bank account, they have tens of thousands of them all with different rules, and they don’t spend the same money they taxed

    Money is just numbers at this point, and so Congress comes up with numbers to fund everything they want to do, they come up with formulas to tax various things, and the two sets of numbers have no real relationship to each other

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      14 hours ago

      To add to this, some spending is done in chunks for the year or doled out every month.

      Some money may be given back to the government if it isn’t spent.

      Some money is purposefully cryptic in its spending for national security reasons.

      There are a lot of things that make it difficult to accurately track things against the entire government, which is why auditing individual departments/agencies is how it’s usually done. However, even then it should be better than it is.