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Peter Thiel’s visit to the Institute of France, a learned society in the heart of Paris, was kept secret until the very last moment. There, behind closed doors, he was due to speak at a meeting of members of the Academy of Moral and Political Sciences, a working group intended to discuss “the future of democracy.” The group, chaired by former minister Hervé Gaymard, has previously interviewed 25 figures, all French, mainly legal scholars, political scientists and historians.

Even Xavier Darcos, chancellor of the Institute of France, who oversees all five of its academies, was only informed of Thiel’s invitation at the last minute. The invitation has caused a stir within the institution, not only because Thiel, the American billionaire who co-founded the online payment system PayPal and Palantir Technologies, a data analytics giant that works for many governments, is one of the biggest investors in the American tech sector. Rather, it is Thiel’s political ideas, which openly contest democracy, that make his presence at the academy event decidedly provocative.

According to an outline of his speech sent to the academy, of which Le Monde obtained a copy in French, Thiel intended to introduce himself as “a moderate Orthodox Christian and a humble classical liberal, with one seemingly minor deviation from classical liberal orthodoxy: I worry about the Antichrist.”

Through Thiel, however, the academy is about to encounter a far more radical worldview. The Antichrist, a figure he has given sometimes-cryptic talks on, drawing from both the Book of Daniel in the Bible and the writings of 16th-century English philosopher Francis Bacon, does not, according to him, refer to the rise of artificial intelligence or the proliferation of imperialist leaders. Thiel claims that today’s Antichrist is anyone who expresses alarm about climate change, stokes fears of nuclear war or seeks to regulate the use of screens and social media platforms, all in order to promote the emergence of a “world government” – something libertarians, who are hostile to all forms of state regulation, dread above all.

  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    It‘s not surprising some rich self-important wanker thinks they have some pseudo-insight into something.

    What is surprising are the people that want to listen to rich wankers.

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    Not only does he show a total disconnect with reality, he’s also even more ignorant of Christian theology than most Christians. An impressive feat! The prophecies of the antichrist are quite clear; it’s almost certainly Donald Trump. Yes the evil religion adores him, but it calls out specific Trump-isms as a sign of the antichrist, like his beef with Mexico or his hats.

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      i think peter thiel is the anti-christ, hes actually evil. TRUMP is more like a stooge, that is mind controlled by the antichrist. american dad had the episode where the anti-christ mind controlled steve to be used as a puppet.

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      So youre just saying whatever you want huh? The whole point of prophecy is you can force it to resemble just about any figure you want if you squint. The Antichrist figure was “almost certainly” a direct reference to a figure of the time, not a prophetic vision of some future tyrant.

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        I’m pretty sure we know the Roman emperor the prophecies were originally meant to slander, but they also objectively apply to Trump.

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            Feuding with the king in the south? Being an unexpected candidate to seize the kingdom? Gaining power with a small force of people? Trying to change set times and laws? Being a pathologic liar? Blaspheming the name of god while speaking of great things? Suffering a head wound but surviving? Making an alliance with Israel and then turning to the coasts? Food scarcity while preserving oil and wine? Desecrating a temple? The disappearing of farm workers?

            Ffs the mark on his followers foreheads? Trump is literally the single most fitting person in history outside of possibly the original ruler the prophesies were written about.

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              I’m going to get back to you once I reread the chapter. But “the mark” needs to be on the forehead or the hand and must be mandatory to buy or sell. That does not apply at all.

              I need to reread the chapter to check what else youre referring to and what the actual non-paraphrased text says.

              See edit below the hr.

              Here we go.

              I assume you’re using Daniel 11 - 12 and Revelation 13 as your point of reference. If you are using a different book or chapter please let me know.

              Things that seem to come from Daniel

              Feuding with the king in the south? Being an unexpected candidate to seize the kingdom? Gaining power with a small force of people?

              You are referreing to Daniel 11:21-24, the contemptible person. This prophecy specifies its starting area as Persia, and the “king in the south” you are using as Mexico is the same 'King in the south" that is allied with which you later use to mean Isreal. You can’t have it both ways, they’re the same kingdom.

              Making an alliance with Israel and then turning to the coasts?

              This is again in Daniel 11:14-20.

              You notably skipped a huge chunk of detail… wonder why… "Then the king of the North will come and build up siege ramps and will capture a fortified city. The forces of the South will be powerless to resist; even their best troops will not have the strength to stand. 16 The invader will do as he pleases; no one will be able to stand against him. He will establish himself in the Beautiful Land and will have the power to destroy it. 17 He will determine to come with the might of his entire kingdom and will make an alliance with the king of the South. And he will give him a daughter in marriage in order to overthrow the kingdom, but his plans will not succeed or help him. Then he will turn his attention to the coastlands and will take many of them, but a commander will put an end to his insolence and will turn his insolence back on him. After this, he will turn back toward the fortresses of his own country but will stumble and fall, to be seen no more. "

              Notably THIS IS A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN THE “COMTEMPTABLE PERSON” above. One man cannot be both, as the king who allies with the south (which you here choose to be isreal, and later to be mexico) is “seen no more” before these bits: “Being an unexpected candidate to seize the kingdom? Gaining power with a small force of people?”

              Things that seem to come from revelation

              Suffering a head wound but surviving

              "One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. "

              My man, the word “fatal” is a pretty important one to not leave out of this sentence. While DT surely seemed to have a wound it at no point appeared to be fatal.

              Blaspheming the name of god while speaking of great things?

              DT has aligned himself strongly with christianity, the exact opposite of blasphemy.

              the mark on his followers foreheads

              This is notably not the same beast that was wounded, it is a separate entity. It is also meant to cause miraculous signs… which DT has not done, and furthermore the mark of the beast is on the hand or the head and required for commerce. This does not fit the MAGA caps.

              The things I did not place

              Trying to change set times and laws?

              Literally the point of a ruler, this isn’t worth mentioning.

              Food scarcity while preserving oil and wine? Desecrating a temple? The disappearing of farm workers?

              Need a reference, could not find in the sections I read. I also am not aware of DT desecrating any temples.


              When you strip key words and context you are engaging in disinformation.

              @shani66@ani.social

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    Deciding that the best solution to encroaching government power is more capitalist corruption of existing state institutions, and investing in Palantir, a tool that literally assists governments in controlling their populaces via soft power, is absolutely demented.

    The solution to all of these problems is more democracy, not less. Create an actual system that puts power in the hands of the people, because this ain’t it, and it never was.

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    This egotistical motherfucker just can’t seem to shut the fuck up and stop talking about himself.

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    Unbelievable that this nutjob and his coked out partner have managed to obtain lucrative government contracts across the West

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        I mean if a presidential candidate pitched drug testing CEOs contracted to the defense industey I’d vote for them because it would mean either A) these fucks would have to do this shit sober, B) they get fired, or C) drugs would be legalized.

        Though its very likely most of them have prescriptions or whatever as well which is just another thing single payer health insurance would solve.

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    We all know that people who are poor and homeless are at much greater risk of mental health issues such as schizophrenia, I really wouldn’t be surprised if the same applies when you have too much money and become paranoid about various issues correlated to how you accumulated your wealth.

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    He’s trying to create a new christianity where the rich are seen as holy. Thats all this is.

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      I mean to be fair that’s what all the billionaires are doing:

      Musks wants a white nazi jesus who forces women to carry children at gunpoint, break up striking workers and lower taxes while giving musk subsidies.

      Theil thinks the antichrist should be anyone opposed to his investment portfolio.

      And the Mercers think Jesus was warning us about the dangers of caring for our neighbors.

      Trump of course thinks Epstein is jesus and will return to earth soon to rapture all the pedophiles to pedophile heaven.

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        Yeah, IDK. Our rich are all kids that grew up within the oligarchy. They didn’t have to try as hard. They’re all drooling fucking morons that think they’re geniuses because everything always goes their way because they’ve always had money.

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      They realise that being rich when it all collapses won’t save them. They need to be reversed so people don’t eat them.

      It won’t work.

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        Of course it wont. It’s the dumbest plan I’ve ever seen to avoid murder from revolution. It makes “let them eat cake” seem smart.

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      Tbf that’s the same as medieval Christianity kinda, except the holiness begot the richness, not the reverse.

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    Hey France you still have those guillotines around? Can you do the world a favor?

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    Does that mean we’ll get film of his insane rants?

    His brain seems to have turned into pudding since Luigi Mangione allegedly killed that CEO.