A man who worked an AI watchdog reveals how OpenAI representatives suddenly showed up at his door step, demanding documents.

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    12 hours ago

    he was being subpoenaed.

    Oh. Please don’t reward this clickbait with your attention.

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      There’s nothing new or unique about the subpoena process. UK, Canada and Australia also allow the compulsory production of documents for legal proceedings.

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        11 hours ago

        Do you understand what it means to be subpoenaed? Under the authority of a court, you can be ordered to produce documents or appear yourself, and this order must be delivered in person to be considered complete. There are penalties for not complying so they have to make absolutely sure you received the order.

        This headline makes it sound like they’re stalking him. You could claim frivolous litigation if you want, but this has absolutely nothing to do with freedom.

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          this has absolutely nothing to do with freedom.

          I have often said: the courts have absolutely nothing to do with justice, at least not the kind of justice people think they do.

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    Article wants you to think hired goons shows up with baseball bats or something. Issuing subpoenas for legal proceedings is a standard legal process and they’re often required to be hand delivered to ensure receipt.

    People have raised concern about decreasing transparency at OpenAI and that merits attention. But this article describes a standard legal practice.

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      Ah yes the old using legal processes to quash critics. Nothing to see here, just standard legal practice.

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        11 hours ago

        If you can argue that the action was baseless harassment, then do so. Frivolous lawsuits have their own penalties. But you can’t argue with the subpoena process on its face.

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          Subpoena + publicity = uninsurable. And when you work for a low-profit endeavor, your “damages” are limited to the money you might have made were you insurable, at least that’s how the courts measure it and the lawyers decide to take the case or not. OpenAI would probably gladly lose a case and pay whatever income The Midas Project lost as a result of OpenAI’s actions - profit isn’t the point of The Midas Project, reporting what is happening in the industry is, and that mission has been effectively thwarted with the uninsurable status.

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          6 hours ago

          Odd, I just kinda did do that. The process here is very clearly being used to try put a cooling effect on criticism, and the anti-SLAP rules only work if someone can afford to pay for litigation (another example of a flawed system).

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            5 hours ago

            You didn’t argue it at all, you just asserted it, and now you’re just asserting the motivation.

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              Yes, and to expand on my argument may I point out my functioning eyes.

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    “It’s a bit scary to know that the most valuable private company in the world has your address and has shown up and has questions for you,”

    That’s how “service of process” works. “Process server” is an entire career for people who figure out how to deliver legal documents to people personally.