• idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    I’m sorry, but given that the deer was dead, wasn’t this guy basically fucking a piece of venison?

    Not that that makes it morally okay and I’m sure there are some indecent exposure type charges that apply, but the deer doesn’t care anymore, which is the point of bestiality laws

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 hours ago

      which is the point of bestiality laws

      If that were true our laws around meat farming would be very different

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          2 hours ago

          But his comment is relevant the toppic.

          Modern industrial famring utilizes forced insemination with a tool operated by a human.

          A reasonable person could argue that it’s not sexual assault becuase the act was not for sextial gratification, but purely utilitarian in order to obtain a baby cow, disregarding the welfare of the cow.

          In other words, whether an act is sexual assault or not depends on the intentions of the actor, regardless of the experience of the subject and physical nature of the act.

          If you fill in “human” as your subject in the above formula, a reasonable person could conclude that the experience of the subject does, infact, matter.

          • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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            58 minutes ago

            I’m aware. I’m a vegan because I’m not down for animal rape. The bestiality laws are written with exceptions for people who are acting, not out of their own sexual interest, but out of financial interest.

            I wanted to have a slightly different discussion, because this one’s depressing as shit though.

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          6 hours ago

          A serious discussion about the ethics of bestiality? If that’s the kind of place you’re looking for I think you might have to create it yourself.

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            48 minutes ago

            Honestly it would be really interesting to read that discussion, if it stayed objective and not divert to memeing. You can argue bestiality shouldn’t be forbidden by specific laws (but animal welfare laws) since if we make laws based on what we find gross, that’s how we get bans on homosexuality for example. Also you could argue that animals can actually consent in some ways, since if a male dog is willing to hump anything, isn’t that consenting? But then on the other hand in comparison if a person of limited mental capacity is willing to fuck anything, is fucking them ethical?

            Anyway, after writing that I find it important to point out that I’m personally aromantic asexual and absolutely do not want to fuck anything lmao. Though maybe that also has something to do with how I can look at these concepts from a distance, since they have nothing to do with me

  • charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    I’ve always wanted to fuck a deer. They’re pretty hot. But there is no way I’d fuck a dead one and the deer would have to be a consenting deer adult. This guy just crossed a line that us ethical deer fuckers would never cross.

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    10 hours ago

    Oh damn, looks like I’m about to stick my foot in it.

    First, it’s stupid that this is a criminal matter. If home boy is allowed to shoot a deer, cut it up, eat it, and make shoes out of it, who gives a flying fuck if he fucks the body first? Yeah, it’s gross, but does it really need to come to jail time? It’s a fucking waste of resources. Nobody fucking a dead animal is going to be rehabilitated by jail, period. Ain’t happening.

    With that out of the way, lemme step into the way back machine.

    Now, there used to be dark corners of reddit, and there have always been dark corners of the internet.

    So, for anyone that never took a shitty energizer flashlight and went poking into those dark corners looking for entertainment and/or education, I am the proud bearer of bad news.

    This ain’t a one-off event. People fucking their dead prey is sooooo not a new thing. While it’s fair to call it rare, it’s not exactly a 1 in a billion thing either.

    On reddit, there were multiple people willing to admit to this behavior, and back in the early days of the internet past the aol era, there were a ton of chat rooms where the ugly side of humanity was there for the viewing. If one is able to stay relaxed and non judgemental in their responses (no matter what’s going on in your head), people will open up about anything.

    When it’s something this deviant (and I mean it in the literal sense, not as an insult), you might be amazed how many people want to share their darkness.

    So I’ve talked to people for whom this is a fantasy, as well as those that have done it.

    Most of them, and they were all men except one, talked about the adrenaline rush of hunting leading to heightened arousal. In that sense, it’s really the same underlying motivation as people fucking after their team wins the Superbowl, or after their own sport victory (and lemme tell you that arousal after contact sports or martial arts training is a very potent thing and can lead to much fun).

    It’s only the detail of it that’s deviant, not the underlying mechanisms. It’s wanting to fuck an animal, and wanting to fuck something dead that’s unusual, not the wanting to fuck after a big spike of emotions and chemicals. Couples that hunt together are a perfect example, because there is plenty of fucking in camp when people succeed in their hunt. Hell, doesn’t even have to be a hunt. Fishing camps can be a fuckfest. Birders cam get frisky when they find something rare to point their binoculars at.

    But, a lone hunter feeling that arousal on doe days? Yeah, I’m betting it happens way more than even what I’m aware of. I know there’s guys that have shoved their things into bucks to begin with, so a doe with an actual vagina? Anyone without a very tough inhibition filter that also isn’t bothered by the idea to begin with is a deer fucker waiting to happen.

    I’m not saying I approve of it. I’m not even saying that it isn’t a sign of some serious issues. I’m just saying that humans like to fuck. And there’s a very primitive part of us that doesn’t really care what. The barriers to fucking things other than sexually mature humans are largely learned, not inherent in our brains.

    You ever hear the saying that every mouth feels the same in the dark? In terms of raw sensation, our most primitive segments involved with arousal and orgasm have zero concern about what’s providing the stimulus, only that it’s there. There’s a reason that victims of sexual assault can not only experience physical arousal no matter how much they hate what’s happening, but can be forced to orgasm. It isn’t a purely voluntary process.

    So, if someone is already willing to ignore social mores and standard ethics or morals, the step from being willing to fuck some random animal to fucking a dead one isn’t a big leap.

    And those folks that were willing to talk about their urges to fuck their prey? They weren’t usually freaks in general. They held down jobs, had families, had friends, they just got caught up in the rush of it. It’s like those folks that will escalate risk taking to the point of self destruction just for a buzz from it. Yeah, there were truly antisocial people doing it, but they weren’t the majority.

    Now, this guy? Dude very likely could benefit from extensive therapy. Might even be the sort to let his inner self switch from animals to human bodies. No clue, but I still don’t think jail is a useful solution to the problem he poses. Mandatory treatment? Yeah, maybe, and that has to go through criminal proceedings, but it’s really closer to something like alcoholism in the way it needs to be sentenced.

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      12 hours ago

      This really raises a lot of questions

      There’s the obvious why, and what the fuck.

      But more interestingly are the questions of logistics and planning.

      Did he kill the deer himself or just see a roadkill deer on the side of the road lick his lips and get to work?

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      11 hours ago

      When they found him, the deer was dead. They don’t seem to know if he started that way.

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    11 hours ago

    I get it. Nasty for sure but isn’t this largely a victimless act? The deer was dead, it need not concern itself with earthly problems.

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        11 hours ago

        You saw the title. You wanted to read about the weirdness. You have no one to blame but yourself

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          10 hours ago

          What if he only read the title, but not the article? I haven’t read the article.

          When I started reading Darthcapi’s response, I thought “NO VICTIMS??? WHAT ABOUT THE DEER???” And by the end of his comment, I found out the deer is dead.

          And now…I guess I agree with Darthcapi. It’s one of those situations where I say I’m fine with whatever a persons kinks are, as long as no one non-consenting is involved.

          And…technically I guess this fits that description. But man…

          My ability to be accepting of everyone is REALLY being pushed to the limit here.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      The deer was dead,

      Jesus christ… I came to the comments first for the inevitable jokes and to make one or two myself but this is how I learned THAT extra bit of news… yeesh.

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      11 hours ago

      Depends whether theres studies saying it leads to other more violent sex crimes.

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        Depending on what you want to pay, I can produce you a study saying it leads to healthy relationships, upright citizenship and heathy skin.