So, on Reddit (not a good place, I know), the most upvoted comment to a post saying “You get a call from a woman and it makes you angry. Who is she?” was “Ellen ‘Degenerate’”. (Their words, not mine). Since it was hugely upvoted, why is she so bad? All I know is that she is a talk show host and a lesbian.


She’s been outed as not being the nice person she appears to be on TV. There was a big controversy a few years ago that some of her crew had a lot of stories about her behaviors behind the camera that show that she wasn’t such a nice person to the people who helped make her show a reality.
I don’t remember specifics, but it’s not hard to find if you go looking for videos or articles on it. From what I remember, it was the typical diva sort of behaviors like don’t look her in the eye and being rude to others. Nothing too too serious like sexual assault but still not nice stuff and people view her as a phony since.
There were also some things she did to guests like when she “forced” Mariah Carey to reveal she was pregnant by offering her alcohol and Mariah basically had to admit she was pregnant as to why she wouldn’t drink alcohol. Kind of a shitty thing to do to someone.
I saw a short about margeret cho , she said while working with her, degeneres was being a bitch to her(in chos in words), she did not acknowledge cho’s existence in her later years. you may think cho was embellishing, but with the other evidence came out against ellen, im keen to say she might be right.
DEGENERES conveniently fled to UK/EU around the time DIDDY was convicted/setenced, so that adds another layer of suspicion. almost immediately after diddies conviction.
Also family guy made a parody how horrible she is, taken from real events that happened behind the scenes.
kind of lame that the only reason people can imagine for not drinking an alcohol is “i am pregnant”
Lol, but maybe she just didn’t want to lie. Simpler. You’re right - i bet at that time the idea of “just not drinking” would be ridiculed by the press and general public - but it’s for that reason that Carey might fear she’d get caught up in a bigger lie trying a different excuse.
how would she get caught in a bigger lie? it is her fucking business when she does or does not want to drink alcohol. and even if she drank alcohol some other time, does not mean she must be in mood for it every waking moment. i know, hindsight is 20/20, but the point is that people need to normalize not getting drunk and not having to explain to anyone why they don’t want to.
I think the implication is that the other big reason for not drinking that people would jump to is substance abuse. Even if untrue, once the rumor starts it would be out there.
Yeah, they do, but this was in the past. 2008. Article: The Mercury News
I’d go as far to say that back then people would still have the old fashioned idea that all celebrities are “masterful drinkers” who are allowed one or two glasses of champagne in the middle of the day with ellen degeneres.
As such, they have narrow-minded views towards sobriety.
Ergo, Carey’s options are
#1 is true, short, and something people would have found out anyway.