In the image of the discharge you can clearly see that the device has no cladding. That means a discharge would be limited to a duration of a few seconds, otherwise the material ablated from the wall would lead to extreme heat losses of the plasma. Did they include a future vessel cladding to the plasma volume calculation in the article?
Good points and questions. First wall interaction is going to be an interesting problem for this team to work around.
To the best of my knowledge, this is the first commercially-funded (i.e., non-government) nuclear fusion reactor. Notable investors are MiHoYo (developers of Genshin Impact), Nio (Chinese EV company), and Sequoia Capital…
It is not the first commercially funded fusion reactor even assuming this qualified.
https://www.energystartups.org/top/fusion-energy/
Not hard to find a bunch.
It’s the CCP. You can’t have a non government funded company.
Your claim is that MiHoYo, a gaming company responsible for Genshin Impact, is a government funded company?
Okay then.
Lmfao enjoy your Chinese spyware.
You think a company producing weeb games can’t do this at the behest of a totalitarian government?
Okay then
Hey, please avoiding words like totalitarian and authoritarian. They’re often used to make a false equivalence between fascist and socialist projects.
Horseshoe theory is ultimately rooted in holocaust trivialization.
Considering China can barely control their domestic EV industry from initiating a price war so aggressive they’ve effectively commoditized EVs… Yes?
ToTaLiTariAn 🤡
Yes.
Also, they’re very obviously, as you have just pointed out, not just a gaming company.
MiHoYo… Isn’t a gaming company? How do they make their money? Jesus Christ this is some tin foil hat conspiracy shit
Well, they’re funding a fusion reactor. I think that’s very solidly outside of making videogames.
It’s to fight the honkai when they start appearing in our universe. (Jokes aside, a company that needs to run a lot of servers would be interested in cheap energy.)
Google funds Calico, which studies aging. Thus, Google is an anti-aging company.
If you’re trying to make the argument that google isn’t just a search engine, then I fully agree.
sigh
Do you also think Nvidia is a government-funded company? Google? Pfizer? Your standard for government-funding makes literally zero sense.
No, but Chinese companies very much are
I guess they do get bailed out a lot. Though, it’s not like Epic Games over here is making fusion reactors.
That’s from a lack of vision rather than anything else. Google is IIRC
Have you been living under a rock? How do you think China works
You are blowing minds right now.
$147000 is a lot of money to grant to three college kids with zero proven business record.
What exactly do you think a startup is?
From the wiki editor’s note in the last link:
“In a company, an organization of the Communist Party of China shall be established to carry out the activities of the Party in accordance with the charter of the Communist Party of China. The company shall provide the necessary conditions for the activities of the Party organization.”
Sounds like something all companies must comply in China.
In your guys opinion, is that good or bad? Privately funded would mean proprietary & profit driven implementation for such a crucial technology (if successful). I personally don’t like it.
I don’t mind profit driven because I’m confident that free markets are good for everybody.
The CPC still maintains a lot of influence over companies even when they’re getting their funding from private industry as part of their “politics in command” strategy for controlling market forces. We’ll see how it plays out.
Yep, if they need to disappear a CEO, no matter how big, they can and have done so in the past.
Won’t somebody think of the CEOs!
i don’t know why you got a downvote, disappearinga CEO should be the most popular thing the ccp does
Any path that takes us to unlimited clean energy is the right one IMO. We could always do a little espionage and make our own domestic fusion drive eventually.
No??
I’ve supported engineering at several privately funded nuclear fusion companies, though all of them, this Chinese company included, are building a product out of public school research.
Off the top of my head there’s:
- CFS
- TAE technologies
- Thea
- Zap Energy
And several more…
Building, or built? Either way, maybe these companies will come out with a better design than Tokamak, but until then they’re literally just research ventures because the vast majority of investment at actually scaling fusion is happening for Tokamak tractors.
Built, physically operational reactors that operate as close to Q=1 as they can, with all the diagnostics included.
The diagnostics are very important, as plasma instabilities have been, and continue to be, the critical issue preventing anything useful coming out of our decades of fusion reactor design. All these companies are sharing data on overcoming plasma instability issues, with multiple geometries aimed at evaluating how plasma responds to different inputs in different environments. We’re all trying to understand how to control and compress something far too hot to physically touch.
@naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca scaling fusion isn’t a trivial problem, and saying it like it is indicates a lack of background knowledge. This isn’t a competition between companies (no matter what our CEOs suggest), as we in industry quietly all agree that any of us that cracks this unchains humanity from the solar system. Because government funding has unfortunately sucked so much ass, we’re sort of using private money to get the basic research done. We’d be so much farther ahead otherwise.
It means it’s been commoditized, which is useful for obvious reasons
In what sense? They still have not achieved net power out.
Also “q>10 new reactor by 2027”
…🤣
Natural gas bad, but ccp good?
No idea what ccp is, but CPC is demonstrably good for the people of China. Anybody who can’t see that needs to stop guzzling propaganda.
This is an article from a CCP operated tabloid… Seriously?
There you go dronnie:
Next time Google it yourself
Edit: Actually that one’s from 2020. Youll have to wait until western sources “verify” (read: cope) about it in a week or two
Are you one of those tankies I keep hearing about? If so, what’s a dronnie? Take your time, I’m not yet done coping
It’s a similar social construct as “tankie”. While “tankie” describes anyone left of Bernie Sanders, “dronnie” describes anyone that’s wittingly or unwittingly pro US imperialist.
Pretty sure it should be “dronie,” not “dronnie,” by English phonetics.
Unless you’re pronouncing it like the name “Donnie” but with an ‘r’ in there.
Keep using it. I’m sure it’ll catch on…
Thank you for your encouragement, dronie…
Hey btw I’ve been wondering… My s/o and I are into some pretty freaky shit and I wanted advice from an expert. Do you gotta use a funnel to guzzle that much moldy cheesy CCP cum globs or do you just have to exercise your gag reflex?
I’m sure news outlets that operate for capital are much more trustworthy.
That site is garbage. The atomic unit of propaganda is not lies, it’s emphasis. NYT (and most western news media have supported every single military action the US has done when it mattered.
This isn’t reflected in their ratings, since they don’t need to use lies to get people believing wild misconceptions. It is reflected in the way the American people are mobilized to support each military action.
That site gets used for academic analysis of media bias and has been shown to agree near perfectly with other third party media bias ratings. It would be nice to have a “nationalist” bias ratings as well included but I suspect it would be an unbelievable amount of work and nearly impossible to make balanced beyond their press freedom ranking and overall bias reports. And it’s not agonizingly difficult to read primary news sources and competing perspectives while sticking to sources that have a reputation they care about protecting regarding vetting sources and publishing reasonably accurate news.
You however seem to be suggesting that media honesty is hopeless anyways so you may as well take blatant propaganda “news” sources with poor fact check ratings, from nations with deplorable press freedom as equal to any other. Which is an incredibly dangerous and frankly idiotic perspective to have.
The NYT is obviously biased towards western interests in key ways, the BBC and NPR are even government funded news agencies. They are not in any way equivalent to RT or SCMP let alone the Global Times. There is a level of press freedom, academic freedom, transparency, and freedom to criticize that is completely incomparable.
TLDR: Fuck off tankies, authoritarianism is not welcome in lefty circles as long as I have something to say about it.
Maybe at some point the Americans will get scared that the Chinese are actually making strides ahead of them in electrification and decarbonization to actually get unstuck from their idiotic culture war over fossil fuels.
Fossil fuels aren’t just a culture war. Energy is really important for people, including poor people.
Poor people also care about not dying from the effects of climate change.
Poor people don’t care about the megaprofits of the oil, gas, and automotive industries.
Eh take news from China with a Giga size grain of salt.
As opposed to news from the united states, which is certified good and true and democratic
I agree with you.
The fuck kind of kneejerk is that?
Show me mainstream chinese media that openly criticise the government and Xi. Then you can talk. Until then, accept that chinese media requires a few truckloads of salt.
“The more your media landscape criticizes it’s own government the less critically you can consume it”
Lol
Quote is meaningless w/o context.
With a little self awareness you’d know that the context is the comment chain above and that it’s basically what youre saying llmao
So a meaningless cheap copout then. Gotcha.
Are you old enough to remember how every single mainstream journalist promoted the Iraq war? (no, “maybe the war could be executed more competently” is still supporting the war) How about Libya?
Isn’t it funny how the mainstream media just happens to align with the state department every on every single issue?
are you old enough to remember tank man?
I’m old enough to have seen the video of him having a convo with the commander of the lead tank, and then leaving the situation unharmed.
you mean disappeared right?
Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war. Just like they have criticised immigration policies, or approved them. Same with coal, same with the EPA neutering, same with the oil spills in the gulf. Same with the lack of proper aid and support when the lowlands flooded.
Just because you ignore it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
I’d be happy to adjust my opinion, should you provide similar journalism from china, about china.
Old enough to remember there were lots opposing it as well. Just.like the current Gaza war.
Except none of them meaningfully oppose the gaza war. The closest thing to criticism you’ll hear from a mainstream source is how Netanyahu personally isn’t carrying out the war out humanely enough. Note that this is not actually opposition to the war, since it just calls for a return to the state of slow ethnic cleansing that spawned the war. They oppose the way and rate the settler colonialist ethnostate carries out ethnic cleansing, not the settler colonialist ethnostate whose national project requires ethnic cleansing.
Just as in the Iraq war, nobody was saying “This is bad, and we should leave now, there’s a million people protesting it outside” until like 2006, when the plans to leave were already drawn up (a schedule Obama maintained).
There was a million “The war is good, but it’s being done poorly” and later on “The war is bad, but we’re here and have to carry it out more competently”, but the idea of not pursuing the war was so toxic, republicans would accuse democrats of wanting to “cut and run”.
I don’t know about this particular piece of news, but the insane expansion of HSR for example is no fake news.
America will stop trying to sell oil when it runs out of oil and not one second before, no matter the actual cost.
and will lash out for being behind for as long as they still have guns
It will take a new space race for that to happen.
The space race is on. That’s why Starship has been launching so much. Someone at the FAA must have finally realized that if SpaceX doesn’t go ahead at full SpaceX speed, we’re gonna see China take over space.
They’ve got a space station and a rover on the moon. China will easily overtake us in space, has already in a few places.
and africa with that whole silk road thing
True. China is making rapid gains in territory and influence on Earth and Luna, and soon plans to expand its operations into the Belt.
And by “take over” you mean uselessly posture and dick waggle and colonialize in brand new space accords breaking ways.
This is not something anyone is winning.
Oh yes, this is a competition, and someone is going to win it.
There are lots of resources out there. Far more than here. Most of “the world” is out there. This is happening whether we like it or not.
And all the “dick waggling” is steps on the path to it happening. Funny flesh images, homoerotic shaming, whatever this dick talk is about whenever space comes up, none of it changes the serious nature of what’s going on in space.
That’s hot
Discharge though. Ew.
I see what you did there
