Half the school board thinks Keith deserves a third chance (that’s right, not his first time making inappropriate comments to a child).
They say only he can decide if he wants to step down. They did vote in favor of censuring him. The rest of the school board members that laughed during the comment and touching of a child faced no repercussion. Some even pretended to be offended during the emergency hearing.
Just love knowing all those cunts are complicit in the sexual harassment of children. Something that should have a zero tolerance policy.
Not removed huh. Does he get a date with the kid then instead? That’ll be an awkward conversation picking the girl up from the parents house. Who takes care of the baby the little girl-mother has, a little girl cant be legal guardian right, so is it split custody between the girls parents and the school board member?
I’m just working out logistics here, not passing any judgement on the all knowing, evidently self-regulating school board who are clearly above following any laws.
Pervin’ Erven
Ayyyyy, gottem!
He just said what all the other old dickless codgers were thinking
I’m a dentist and we get summaries of the disciplinary actions taken by our board. A few years ago, there was a male dentist who finally lost his licence for grabbing patients’ and staff’s breasts. The summary read that he had been disciplined for this five times already and they were only just waking up to the fact that he should no longer be licensed to practice.
Personally, I’d let my dentist grope me if he had a high enough success rate. I did some research a while ago, and a dentist whose work consistently fails will probably never lose his license. The patient won’t be able to successfully sue them and there probably won’t be an investigation. It’s a “buyer beware” scenario.
Are you ok?
Wheres all the ‘kill your local pedophile’ talk now?
Wheres all the ‘kill your local pedophile’ talk now?
Only a fool goes against the will of the mighty school board. We are going to write a sternly worded letter demanding that he confine his activities to groping, oral, and back door, no penetration in the vagina area of the child, no strangulation play either, due to safety concerns. We ask that it be codified into official school board ethics policy that all school board members must follow, by penalty of stern written censure if they break this rule.
Are you making a call for action while sitting behind a keyboard? Are you asking for help with your own “extrajudicial plans”, or are you simply “asking questions”? What’s the point of your comment?
Fuck pedophiles and all, but what the shit are you doing about it, that you’re just gonna call out into the void with “tough speak”, asking why nobody’s killing people?
Why are violent-instagations often coming from like day old accounts? It’s like someone wants to stoke radicalization through violent rhetoric
Lemmy unironically is worse about moderation in literally every way compared to reddit. Calls to violence, obvious propaganda, and bots are all way more rampant. The only reason I use it at all is because it surfaces news articles I’d otherwise never see.
justastranger-- so it seems like your options are to file a lawsuit and get it taken care of, or take your crybaby whining elsewhere. Free speech rules apply here and those are legally gated by incitement tests you can read about and act upon as needed. Its all laid out for you, so go take care of it and let us know how it goes. And thanks for standing up for this poor poor school board member.
Honestly, I kinda enjoy the “critical thinking” aspect of it. Knowing full well that I’m going to see more propaganda material, because of less moderation… I get a chance to see obvious social engineering, and I think it helps me to spot it in the wild
It kinda forces me to form my own opinions, if that makes sense? There’s so many hardline opinions around here, that it helps me to see the extremes. Idk, I often find it engaging
It is an eye-opening experience, for sure. But the most important thing to keep in mind is “You Are Not Immune To Propaganda.” There is an entire category of propaganda engineered to be seen just because it pushes people in the opposite direction. Nations like Russia deliberately support every potential “direction” of radicalization for the sole and specific purpose of fragmentation. Or, in the words of Abraham Lincoln: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.”
Lemmy unironically is worse about moderation in literally every way compared to reddit.
No! Bad. Bad!!!
Reddit is bottom-of-the-barrel moderation, away with you
p.s. what’s wrong with propaganda? I can’t even
I wish I didn’t have to struggle against Poe’s Law :(
Don’t be sad, every joke is improved with a “straight man” reaction, don’t you think?
Dude’s electronics should have been seized and searched immediately.
Absofuckinglutely
There’s not one man in that entire city who is willing to do thirty days in jail to kick this guy’s ass?
Not one bored retiree with honor?
Curious, when’s the last time you took a misdemeanor to kick some guy’s ass in jail?
So your are saying there are no conditions where you would ever take a charge? Like if a woman or child is being harmed in public, you wouldn’t defend them? In self defense there is always the chance of having a assault and battery charge.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Love that copy pasta lol
About ten-eleven years ago, I hit a guy in a grocery store because I saw him bitch-slap his preschool aged daughter who had asked for cheerios.
It was crazy because his wife stepped to me after that. I have never hit a woman, but that mouthy trashmonster was almost my first. I was a lot more naive than I am now, because I honestly thought she’d be appreciative of the fact that the guy bleeding on the floor was no longer assaulting her 3 or 4 year old sweetheart. Instead, she got in my face and started screaming.
I said some choice words that I will not repeat as they were offensive and, at times, misogynistic.
Anyway, I left before any cops got called so I didn’t get arrested or face any consequences. Left my cart in the aisle and shopped across town later than night.
Would happily do it again.
Respect. Fuck anyone who says otherwise.
Sadly, he probably didn’t change the situation for that poor kid.
Tennessee…
They started the meeting with a prayer about “keeping their minds on the children”, followed by the most robotic sounding pledge of allegiance I’ve ever heard, and then they proceeded to pardon the predator, mostly using religious “grace” as a justification. America!
Willing to put a month’s wages down on which party he’s affiliated with.
Really either one honestly. The dems are just better at hiding it.
Nah son as willing as I am to bash Dems at every available opportunity, only Republicans are consistently pedophilic
Hm. You wanna fact check that? https://groups.google.com/g/can.politics/c/6iODV2wYtE0?pli=1
democratic donor and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein
LM fucking AO
This is hilarious omg
Study claims over 50% of liberal women under 30 have mental health issues
Hahah wow these sources you linked to are so trustworthy! /s
lmao
literal pedo president started a war to distract from his pedo files and your response is both sides same
While your statement is popular, my response was to a bet that the subject of this post was a republican because he is inappropriate with minors.
My response to trump in general would probably get me banned.We’re just gonna pretend the Clintons weren’t part of the pedo files?
tell you what, Trump can release the full unredacted Epstein files and we can find out together
Agreed! However, Biden also could’ve released the files.
Any current senator, or from the past 5 years, could release the full unredacted files but are actively choosing not to.
sure and if Biden was currently president I’d be on board caring about it right now
hell if we can prove he knew and hid it I’m even fine exploring if charges are possible after but I’m sure as fuck not wasting any effort caring about that this very moment
single biggest issue is getting Trump to stop fucking this country up further, worrying about anything else is like trying to diagnose cancer while the patient is bleeding out from a gut wound
even if the Epstein files were not a thing that would still be true, there are so many other ways he has destroyed this country for the foreseeable future
he should hang for the highest top secret leaks alone, literal traitor for profit during war time
He didn’t need to know. It’s a knee-jerk politician reaction to not release ingo if it may hurt anyone in thier party… or the oligarchy.
Shill or troll? Because you can’t possibly be this fucking dumb
And wait, who would I be shilling for? I said nothing positive about anyone.
Dumb is assuming that because one side is really bad, that the other side is angels.
https://groups.google.com/g/can.politics/c/6iODV2wYtE0?pli=1Its reasonable to assume there is a ‘good’ party if youre not from here, but you dont understand american culture. We kill our heroes here.
Theres less baroque monsters and absolutely unbelievable monsters.
Bothsiding pedophilia.
Huh…what stage of denial is that again?
Both sides are https://groups.google.com/g/can.politics/c/6iODV2wYtE0?pli=1 And both should be punished. I used “punished” because my real opinion is probably against some rule.
Oh, just fuck off…
I’d like to downvote and say no that’s wrong.
But I don’t know that’s wrong, I’d really like to think it and belive it because the VAST majority of history has put them on the right. But that could just be confirmation bias.
The right certain has their share of horrible people.
Sadly, it isn’t wrong. I’m pretty solidly anti-politician. We need better people making important decisions. https://groups.google.com/g/can.politics/c/6iODV2wYtE0?pli=1
There are links to Britebart and fucking Newsmax in there and you’re posting that stupid link everywhere.
Stop being a moron.
“The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept.” --Lt. Gen. David Morrison, former head of Australian Army.
Amusingly he was talking about a situation where male soldiers were sexually assaulting female soldiers, while a larger group of servicemembers knew this was happening but did nothing to stop or report or prevent it.
He’s 100% right though. The standard this school board walks past, and thus the standard they accept, is one of their own sexually harassing a teenage girl.
Every one of them that laughed or snickered or whatever should be removed.
We’ve been “walking past” this since at least 1961. Americans excell at ignoring our check engine lights.
We’ve been walking past an awful lot for very long. We got comfortable. We got lazy. The Framers set up a pretty good system for us and after WWII and Vietnam and the civil rights movement, we basically all decided that we had fixed our society and government and we could sit back and crack open a cold one.
After WWII a cabal of rich elites started plotting to undo everything FDRs New Deal had done.
The citizenry aren’t blameless but it’s important to understand why we’re in this spot.
You had genocide and slavery sitting right there and you went with economics for your dashboard analogy, a bold choice.
Think about what it’s said and done when cameras are off.
why would he be removed? he goes to church on Sunday.
also, bring back punching people in the face in public
I seriously wonder how far away the US is from stoning women and girls to death for not being virgins…
I think stoning is too closely associated with Islam/Arabic nations, whipping or nailing to a cross would be more appropriate for the US
No, the Old Testament definitely advocates for stoning. That was what the whole “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” thing in the New Testament is referring to. Jesus was stopping a stoning. But many conservative Christians conveniently forget that the New Testament is a thing, and refer almost exclusively to the Old Testament for their teachings.
You’re absolutely correct! But do you expect the average American to have read the Bible? let alone the old testament?
But do you expect the average American to have read
Somebody immediately blocked me yesterday, despite me never speaking to them or having seen them before, because I said we needed to start using violence against people who do this shit. It’s the only way to stop it, because clearly holding them accountable doesn’t work in the US. If it did, we wouldn’t have a pedophile for a president.
How do we know holding them accountable doesn’t work? We’ve never actually tried it.
Yes, that’s the problem, thank you for stating the obvious, you truly are an intellectual.
Anyway, sounds like the real problem is that our laws aren’t being enforced. So maybe we should deal with that instead of normalizing vigilante justice.
How many people need to get away with rape before you feel it’s justified to do something about it?
Zero. But what I want to do about it is replace the people in charge who are currently not holding rapists accountable.
Coincidentally that might solve some other problems here too, like how we spend $1 trillion a year on the War Department but “can’t afford” universal healthcare.
Holding people accountable works if they are actually held accountable.
Right, which didn’t happen. So it doesn’t work. Flushing a toilet gets rid of poop, when it works. When it doesn’t flush, it doesn’t work.
I’m being pedantic, but the analogy would be more like what you initially said if no attempt to actually flush the toilet was made.
Isn’t your suggestion just holding people accountable?
I meant through the legal system, but yeah. But apparently wanting to use violence makes me “exactly as horrible” as a pedophile. 🤷♂️
These are the same people who see rape and murder as the same levelof sin as being gay. I was raised around that type of bs.
“i dont hate you for being gay, its just your burden. Like johnny is pedo, and pam is a murderer, and frank is a thief. We’re all sinners and its not our place to judge”
i wish i was kidding…
Idk why punching people in the US is treated exactly as bad as shooting people but its stupid to think a bloody lip is the same as like a bullet hole.
Idk, but somebody who does shit like he did definitely deserves a few guys taking them out back behind the building to give them a real good beating.
If saying that makes me “exactly as bad” as them then so be it, I’ll be the bad guy and take one for the team. 💪
might have something to do with the fact that when you punch someone, they can shoot back. but yeah, i agree that this person should be handled by the community. i would think that the kid has a father and he has some friends…?
That is a symptom of the exact problem I’m asking about.
“Exactly as horrible” is unfair to you. But it sounds like you’re advocating to give up on rule of law and just have the strongest most violent people be the ones to decide what’s right. And I’d argue that you’d just get back to where we are right now: wealthy people would control the system, they’d employ strong violent people to enforce their personal whims as “law”, and you’d be complaining that nobody is willing to beat up the pedophile (because his friends would hire goons to kill them).
I mean, presumably that’s what’s stopping you personally from implementing your own recommendation, right? Because if you showed up and kicked this guy’s ass you’d be beaten and arrested by the police.
wealthy people would control the system
oh no, I’m a leftist. the plan is to murder the rich people. then they can’t do anything to stop you. I’m a big fan of a firing squad, but one of the other AN admins suggested slow roasting over a fire. I’m also partial to putting them on wooden stakes like Vlad the Impaler, but we can figure it out as as we purge them, I suppose. maybe a little bit of everything?
Oh OK. Murdering rich people might effect social change. Though I’m skeptical because not a lot of people actually do it, which is an important component of that change.
I think you still end up coming around in a circle: in your fantasy of mob-justice, what prevents the wealthy from ending up being the ones who control it? (Like Vlad the Impaler!)
Violence is a circle. You do it to someone, they do it to you. The only way to stop that cycle is to kill your target. Now murder’s on the table for anyone who thinks a type of person is unacceptable, which is only sensible until it really, really isn’t. Operating under the assumption that violence is a reliable deterrent will ultimately get you killed, man. Unless you plan on being the only guy with the nuclear option at your disposal. Good luck with that one.
Peace should be the standard, even when it’s hard. Don’t get me wrong, there are people I won’t shed a tear for when they get hurt. But I would consider the best case scenario to be “a problematic person course corrected before they hurt anyone” and the next best to be “a problematic person learned from their mistakes”. That’s what accountability looks like imo, and we don’t always meet that mark. That’s a shame, but not big enough that violence is the only answer we have. We can and should be better than that.
The first violence is that they arrest parents for child abuse if they don’t send their children to attend a school with a pedophile on the board.
The second violence is a parent grounding their child unless they attend a school run by pedophiles.
The third violence is that they arrest people if they don’t pay taxes to fund the wages of a pedophile in a position of power over children.
The fourth violence is someone paying money to put a pedophile in charge of children.
The fifth violence is a child getting sexually assaulted because the perpetrator knows they can get away with it.
The sixth violence is an adult telling a sexually assaulted child to go back to school because they don’t have proof.
A peaceful world does not look like the present day. A peaceful world is anarchy, where nobody is required to support a pedophile school board member unless they want to.
What you are asking for isn’t peace, it is submission to the status quo and the forces with a monopoly on violence that maintain it even if they are unjust.
If you want peace, prepare for war. Because a lot of people are going to be violent towards you the moment you stop supporting their violence.
This is moral relativist bullshit.
Back your words up.
Only one thing ever stopped fascists.
You talk of peace but leave out justice because violence is how laws are enforced. Wake me up when you start preaching that private property is violence because until then this is just hypocrisy.
I actually don’t think violence should coincide with justice. It just does because violence is enforcement, and we don’t have a better way laid out for peaceful coexistence (at least, not in the US at present). Violence exists, and one of the most reliable methods of regulating violence has unfortunately been to meet it where it is, with greater violence. Beyond that, we have a tendency to go to great lengths to justify violence against one another, so much so that it’s an art in and of itself. I’m well aware how idealistic I’m being in wanting peace as a baseline, but nothing worth doing is without challenge.
Private property is a can of worms I can’t touch right now. But I have ancestors that were considered private property, and existence itself is being claimed by the highest bidders with little that can be done to resist it. You won’t find me arguing that private property isn’t at the very least directly supported by violence. I’m not quite sure why I’d have to preach about it to substantiate my desire for peace though? I’m engaged in a system I didn’t choose, and I find my rebellions where I can. It’s hard to exist in these times without a bit of personal dissonance.
Honestly it helps me understand what kind of peace you are talking about. Property is a very personal thing for people because of the lack of peace. But consider me awake and listening. Any book or media recommendations?
so the only thing we disagree on is whether or not we’ve reach the last resort?
I don’t think we have yet. Not for this guy, at least. He called a kid hot, in front of colleagues who were amused by it, and the proof is undeniable. I’m sure enough local pressure could get him (and maybe his colleagues) fired, and a black mark on his character would be even better. People should let him know what they think of him everywhere he goes.
That said, the president and his ilk…tbh that’s where I struggle to find the peaceful option. Can’t find a better representation of institutional failure. Violence won’t necessarily make things better, but I can’t shake the feeling we’ve been backed into a corner.
How did you know they blocked you?
Piefed, which I use, has actual blocking, unlike Lemmy. You cannot reply to someone that has blocked you on Piefed, the option is greyed out and you are given an error that says “you are blocked by this person” if you try. if that person is a mod, you also cannot post to any of their comms, if I remember correctly.
also, they said they were going to block me.
Ah, I see! That’s a nice feature.
That’s a nice feature.
that’s a shitty feature and i wouldn’t participate anywhere where they have that. you are free to ignore whomever you want, but this is “i have a last word” button and that is retarded.
you can’t have the power to say whatever bullshit you want publicly and then prevent people from calling you out.
You make a good point, upon thinking about it more!
i mean it really can go both ways. you definitely can have some troll that is bothering you in a way where having such block power could be useful, but it can also be abused in a way i described. assholes will weaponize anything i guess.
But if you don’t see their comments, who cares if they’re shouting into the void?
Whatever you say, Batman. Are you the one who’s going to deliver the punch?
Plenty of other countries have more vigilante justice and still have corrupt leaders, so clearly that doesn’t work either. Maybe instead work to make your government better. In a democracy, it represents the will of the people.
Are you the one who’s going to deliver the punch?
I hit my step-father over the head as a child with a cast iron pan for trying to force himself on my mother while drunk, so yeah, I’ll fucking beat him up for you, if you’re too much of a feckless hand-wringer to do anything to defend your community from predators. wouldn’t want you to break your nails or muss up your hair gel.
Maybe instead work to make your government better. In a democracy, it represents the will of the people.
the United States is not a democracy, and the will of the people is ignored. so basically, you’re advice is to sit back and do nothing, same as always.
There are a lot of problems with the US that more cast iron pans would fix. Good on you.
if you’re too much of a feckless hand-wringer to do anything to defend your community from predators.
Unlike you, I do things that work instead of just putting myself in jail. I was lucky to grow up in a household with education and without violence, so that’s why I’m more likely to make correct decisions.
the will of the people is ignored
News to me.
your advice
is to call for his resignation, raising embarrassment until he does. I’m active in local politics, so I know what works. It’s the people who aren’t active in politics who think action movies have all the answers. Rand Paul is still in office. Tony Gonzales will not be.
Because you don’t have the will to throw a punch, you’re just going to project insincerity onto those who do? Weak shit.
Because
nonsenseI know that throwing a punch won’t solve the problem, will gain sympathy for the attacked, and will put me in jail. Smart shit.
Oh weird, so strange and not usual at all that the ones not calling for his resignation invoke Christian values and Jeebus (and literally comparing him to the pedo in chief). Unfortunately with world events being what they are I’m sure this’ll be forgotten within a day or two. Apparently we can only wait for this guy’s name to pop up in the paper in a few years for having raped a bunch of pre teens.
