Half the school board thinks Keith deserves a third chance (that’s right, not his first time making inappropriate comments to a child).
They say only he can decide if he wants to step down. They did vote in favor of censuring him. The rest of the school board members that laughed during the comment and touching of a child faced no repercussion. Some even pretended to be offended during the emergency hearing.
I’m a dentist and we get summaries of the disciplinary actions taken by our board. A few years ago, there was a male dentist who finally lost his licence for grabbing patients’ and staff’s breasts. The summary read that he had been disciplined for this five times already and they were only just waking up to the fact that he should no longer be licensed to practice.
Wheres all the ‘kill your local pedophile’ talk now?
Dude’s electronics should have been seized and searched immediately.
There’s not one man in that entire city who is willing to do thirty days in jail to kick this guy’s ass?
Not one bored retiree with honor?
Tennessee…
Curious, when’s the last time you took a misdemeanor to kick some guy’s ass in jail?
About ten-eleven years ago, I hit a guy in a grocery store because I saw him bitch-slap his preschool aged daughter who had asked for cheerios.
It was crazy because his wife stepped to me after that. I have never hit a woman, but that mouthy trashmonster was almost my first. I was a lot more naive than I am now, because I honestly thought she’d be appreciative of the fact that the guy bleeding on the floor was no longer assaulting her 3 or 4 year old sweetheart. Instead, she got in my face and started screaming.
I said some choice words that I will not repeat as they were offensive and, at times, misogynistic.
Anyway, I left before any cops got called so I didn’t get arrested or face any consequences. Left my cart in the aisle and shopped across town later than night.
Would happily do it again.
Respect. Fuck anyone who says otherwise.
They started the meeting with a prayer about “keeping their minds on the children”, followed by the most robotic sounding pledge of allegiance I’ve ever heard, and then they proceeded to pardon the predator, mostly using religious “grace” as a justification. America!
Think about what it’s said and done when cameras are off.
Willing to put a month’s wages down on which party he’s affiliated with.
Really either one honestly. The dems are just better at hiding it.
Nah son as willing as I am to bash Dems at every available opportunity, only Republicans are consistently pedophilic
lmao
literal pedo president started a war to distract from his pedo files and your response is both sides same
We’re just gonna pretend the Clintons weren’t part of the pedo files?
tell you what, Trump can release the full unredacted Epstein files and we can find out together
Agreed! However, Biden also could’ve released the files.
Any current senator, or from the past 5 years, could release the full unredacted files but are actively choosing not to.
sure and if Biden was currently president I’d be on board caring about it right now
hell if we can prove he knew and hid it I’m even fine exploring if charges are possible after but I’m sure as fuck not wasting any effort caring about that this very moment
single biggest issue is getting Trump to stop fucking this country up further, worrying about anything else is like trying to diagnose cancer while the patient is bleeding out from a gut wound
even if the Epstein files were not a thing that would still be true, there are so many other ways he has destroyed this country for the foreseeable future
he should hang for the highest top secret leaks alone, literal traitor for profit during war time
Shill or troll? Because you can’t possibly be this fucking dumb
Its reasonable to assume there is a ‘good’ party if youre not from here, but you dont understand american culture. We kill our heroes here.
Theres less baroque monsters and absolutely unbelievable monsters.
Bothsiding pedophilia.
Huh…what stage of denial is that again?
Oh, just fuck off…
I’d like to downvote and say no that’s wrong.
But I don’t know that’s wrong, I’d really like to think it and belive it because the VAST majority of history has put them on the right. But that could just be confirmation bias.
The right certain has their share of horrible people.
“The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept.” --Lt. Gen. David Morrison, former head of Australian Army.
Amusingly he was talking about a situation where male soldiers were sexually assaulting female soldiers, while a larger group of servicemembers knew this was happening but did nothing to stop or report or prevent it.
He’s 100% right though. The standard this school board walks past, and thus the standard they accept, is one of their own sexually harassing a teenage girl.
Every one of them that laughed or snickered or whatever should be removed.
We’ve been “walking past” this since at least 1961. Americans excell at ignoring our check engine lights.
You had genocide and slavery sitting right there and you went with economics for your dashboard analogy, a bold choice.
why would he be removed? he goes to church on Sunday.
also, bring back punching people in the face in public
I seriously wonder how far away the US is from stoning women and girls to death for not being virgins…
I think stoning is too closely associated with Islam/Arabic nations, whipping or nailing to a cross would be more appropriate for the US
No, the Old Testament definitely advocates for stoning. That was what the whole “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” thing in the New Testament is referring to. Jesus was stopping a stoning. But many conservative Christians conveniently forget that the New Testament is a thing, and refer almost exclusively to the Old Testament for their teachings.
You’re absolutely correct! But do you expect the average American to have read the Bible? let alone the old testament?
But do you expect the average American to have read
Somebody immediately blocked me yesterday, despite me never speaking to them or having seen them before, because I said we needed to start using violence against people who do this shit. It’s the only way to stop it, because clearly holding them accountable doesn’t work in the US. If it did, we wouldn’t have a pedophile for a president.
How do we know holding them accountable doesn’t work? We’ve never actually tried it.
Yes, that’s the problem, thank you for stating the obvious, you truly are an intellectual.
Anyway, sounds like the real problem is that our laws aren’t being enforced. So maybe we should deal with that instead of normalizing vigilante justice.
How many people need to get away with rape before you feel it’s justified to do something about it?
Zero. But what I want to do about it is replace the people in charge who are currently not holding rapists accountable.
Coincidentally that might solve some other problems here too, like how we spend $1 trillion a year on the War Department but “can’t afford” universal healthcare.
Holding people accountable works if they are actually held accountable.
Right, which didn’t happen. So it doesn’t work. Flushing a toilet gets rid of poop, when it works. When it doesn’t flush, it doesn’t work.
I’m being pedantic, but the analogy would be more like what you initially said if no attempt to actually flush the toilet was made.
Violence is a circle. You do it to someone, they do it to you. The only way to stop that cycle is to kill your target. Now murder’s on the table for anyone who thinks a type of person is unacceptable, which is only sensible until it really, really isn’t. Operating under the assumption that violence is a reliable deterrent will ultimately get you killed, man. Unless you plan on being the only guy with the nuclear option at your disposal. Good luck with that one.
Peace should be the standard, even when it’s hard. Don’t get me wrong, there are people I won’t shed a tear for when they get hurt. But I would consider the best case scenario to be “a problematic person course corrected before they hurt anyone” and the next best to be “a problematic person learned from their mistakes”. That’s what accountability looks like imo, and we don’t always meet that mark. That’s a shame, but not big enough that violence is the only answer we have. We can and should be better than that.
You talk of peace but leave out justice because violence is how laws are enforced. Wake me up when you start preaching that private property is violence because until then this is just hypocrisy.
I actually don’t think violence should coincide with justice. It just does because violence is enforcement, and we don’t have a better way laid out for peaceful coexistence (at least, not in the US at present). Violence exists, and one of the most reliable methods of regulating violence has unfortunately been to meet it where it is, with greater violence. Beyond that, we have a tendency to go to great lengths to justify violence against one another, so much so that it’s an art in and of itself. I’m well aware how idealistic I’m being in wanting peace as a baseline, but nothing worth doing is without challenge.
Private property is a can of worms I can’t touch right now. But I have ancestors that were considered private property, and existence itself is being claimed by the highest bidders with little that can be done to resist it. You won’t find me arguing that private property isn’t at the very least directly supported by violence. I’m not quite sure why I’d have to preach about it to substantiate my desire for peace though? I’m engaged in a system I didn’t choose, and I find my rebellions where I can. It’s hard to exist in these times without a bit of personal dissonance.
Honestly it helps me understand what kind of peace you are talking about. Property is a very personal thing for people because of the lack of peace. But consider me awake and listening. Any book or media recommendations?
This is moral relativist bullshit.
Back your words up.
Only one thing ever stopped fascists.
so the only thing we disagree on is whether or not we’ve reach the last resort?
I don’t think we have yet. Not for this guy, at least. He called a kid hot, in front of colleagues who were amused by it, and the proof is undeniable. I’m sure enough local pressure could get him (and maybe his colleagues) fired, and a black mark on his character would be even better. People should let him know what they think of him everywhere he goes.
That said, the president and his ilk…tbh that’s where I struggle to find the peaceful option. Can’t find a better representation of institutional failure. Violence won’t necessarily make things better, but I can’t shake the feeling we’ve been backed into a corner.
Isn’t your suggestion just holding people accountable?
I meant through the legal system, but yeah. But apparently wanting to use violence makes me “exactly as horrible” as a pedophile. 🤷♂️
These are the same people who see rape and murder as the same levelof sin as being gay. I was raised around that type of bs.
“i dont hate you for being gay, its just your burden. Like johnny is pedo, and pam is a murderer, and frank is a thief. We’re all sinners and its not our place to judge”
i wish i was kidding…
Idk why punching people in the US is treated exactly as bad as shooting people but its stupid to think a bloody lip is the same as like a bullet hole.
Idk, but somebody who does shit like he did definitely deserves a few guys taking them out back behind the building to give them a real good beating.
If saying that makes me “exactly as bad” as them then so be it, I’ll be the bad guy and take one for the team. 💪
might have something to do with the fact that when you punch someone, they can shoot back. but yeah, i agree that this person should be handled by the community. i would think that the kid has a father and he has some friends…?
That is a symptom of the exact problem I’m asking about.
“Exactly as horrible” is unfair to you. But it sounds like you’re advocating to give up on rule of law and just have the strongest most violent people be the ones to decide what’s right. And I’d argue that you’d just get back to where we are right now: wealthy people would control the system, they’d employ strong violent people to enforce their personal whims as “law”, and you’d be complaining that nobody is willing to beat up the pedophile (because his friends would hire goons to kill them).
I mean, presumably that’s what’s stopping you personally from implementing your own recommendation, right? Because if you showed up and kicked this guy’s ass you’d be beaten and arrested by the police.
wealthy people would control the system
oh no, I’m a leftist. the plan is to murder the rich people. then they can’t do anything to stop you. I’m a big fan of a firing squad, but one of the other AN admins suggested slow roasting over a fire. I’m also partial to putting them on wooden stakes like Vlad the Impaler, but we can figure it out as as we purge them, I suppose. maybe a little bit of everything?
Oh OK. Murdering rich people might effect social change. Though I’m skeptical because not a lot of people actually do it, which is an important component of that change.
I think you still end up coming around in a circle: in your fantasy of mob-justice, what prevents the wealthy from ending up being the ones who control it? (Like Vlad the Impaler!)
How did you know they blocked you?
Piefed, which I use, has actual blocking, unlike Lemmy. You cannot reply to someone that has blocked you on Piefed, the option is greyed out and you are given an error that says “you are blocked by this person” if you try. if that person is a mod, you also cannot post to any of their comms, if I remember correctly.
also, they said they were going to block me.
Ah, I see! That’s a nice feature.
That’s a nice feature.
that’s a shitty feature and i wouldn’t participate anywhere where they have that. you are free to ignore whomever you want, but this is “i have a last word” button and that is retarded.
you can’t have the power to say whatever bullshit you want publicly and then prevent people from calling you out.
You make a good point, upon thinking about it more!
i mean it really can go both ways. you definitely can have some troll that is bothering you in a way where having such block power could be useful, but it can also be abused in a way i described. assholes will weaponize anything i guess.
But if you don’t see their comments, who cares if they’re shouting into the void?
Whatever you say, Batman. Are you the one who’s going to deliver the punch?
Plenty of other countries have more vigilante justice and still have corrupt leaders, so clearly that doesn’t work either. Maybe instead work to make your government better. In a democracy, it represents the will of the people.
Are you the one who’s going to deliver the punch?
I hit my step-father over the head as a child with a cast iron pan for trying to force himself on my mother while drunk, so yeah, I’ll fucking beat him up for you, if you’re too much of a feckless hand-wringer to do anything to defend your community from predators. wouldn’t want you to break your nails or muss up your hair gel.
Maybe instead work to make your government better. In a democracy, it represents the will of the people.
the United States is not a democracy, and the will of the people is ignored. so basically, you’re advice is to sit back and do nothing, same as always.
There are a lot of problems with the US that more cast iron pans would fix. Good on you.
if you’re too much of a feckless hand-wringer to do anything to defend your community from predators.
Unlike you, I do things that work instead of just putting myself in jail. I was lucky to grow up in a household with education and without violence, so that’s why I’m more likely to make correct decisions.
the will of the people is ignored
News to me.
your advice
is to call for his resignation, raising embarrassment until he does. I’m active in local politics, so I know what works. It’s the people who aren’t active in politics who think action movies have all the answers. Rand Paul is still in office. Tony Gonzales will not be.
Because you don’t have the will to throw a punch, you’re just going to project insincerity onto those who do? Weak shit.
Oh weird, so strange and not usual at all that the ones not calling for his resignation invoke Christian values and Jeebus (and literally comparing him to the pedo in chief). Unfortunately with world events being what they are I’m sure this’ll be forgotten within a day or two. Apparently we can only wait for this guy’s name to pop up in the paper in a few years for having raped a bunch of pre teens.
The bar is so low, yet the US keeps effortlessly limboing under it
YES! Exactly like that!
Yeah, but… think about it. We haven’t seen the girl. What if she was, like, REALLY hot? A complete fucking smoke show. 10/10. One of the ones you might sneak into a dressing room at beauty pageant to see. Or maybe even hop on a private plane to meet on some luxurious island. Or even carry across state lines. I don’t think we should pass judgement on this man until we determine if he was a pedophile, a pedophile, or a pedophile.
Edit: Also, if reading the first few lines of this post made your stomach twist a little, then you are one of the good ones. Keep it up. The world needs more of you and less of this douche nozzle.
Side note… I did watch the vid. She was pretty and all. But she was dressed far more conservatively than most high school girls. Certainly not dressed to look hot. So if he can’t keep his mind off the underage girl dressed conservatively, what would happen if he saw a bare midriff…
The first few lines did have me thinking ’ I don’t know where you’re going with this one bro…’
You act like you’ve never stared at a teenager’s ass. I used to spend hours doing it. Hell, I think some of them even liked when I looked at them. Mind you, this was way back when I was a teenager. I couldn’t help but double up the joke, but worse.
What do you mean way back, aren’t you F/15/Cali?
No, that was me. Send me pictures of your penis with your driver’s license, bank account info, and birth certificate properly framed and in focus. This is my kink and will make me do a good sex fr fr no cap lit fam.
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Good ole boys gonna good ole boy
It’s likely they see it as one harmless comment and not the pattern and culture that it is.
Maybe I’m being unfair to someone out there, but I kinda like the term “rednecks.”
“Redneck” implies working class (because it’s traditionally caused by getting sunburned from working out in a field) in a way that “good ol’ boy” does not.
The idea of a redneck community leader is an oxymoron.
I’d say the term has undergone what happens with many other definitions over the years, i.e. it’s shifted somewhat in meaning. More than just being about an outdoor worker, I think it implies a certain type of conduct and attitude.
And I absolutely meant it as a slander to those ‘community leaders,’ as explained earlier.
I always thought of the striking West Virginia coal miners as rednecks, and some of them were community leaders. But times and terms change.
Okay, being specifically a labor leader is the exception that proves the rule, because that’s a role in opposition to the establishment, not part of it.
This is literally a Good Ole Boy network at work. It looks like he’s a dairy farmer, though how much actual labor he does is anyone’s guess. He may also be a redneck, but he’s a good ole boy, and this is what that looks like when that system is working.
Yeap, good points.
Good ole boys are the political in group in small towns. Generally they have good jobs and are seen by locals as community leaders of some sort. Rednecks are basically anyone who enjoys things typically associated with rural living. Anyone can be a redneck and there are plenty of rednecks in jail for way less serious things than child abuse.
TBH, there’s an intentional slander element I’m going for.
The idea being that such ‘community leaders’ are little more than rednecks to me, at the end of the day. And I’m not sure I agree about the ‘rural living’ definition. Nothing wrong with rural life IMO, but rednecks are moreso representative to me of toxic actors amongst such folks.
Jeff Foxworthy’s entire oeuvre in shambles.
oeuvre
Btw, that’s a great, but hard word to learn in French. Took me like 10x to pronounce it correctly, so I might just be a…
Redneck is something else
Why are you Libtards up in Arms about THIS? Being a Pedophile is as American as Apple Pie!
-Republicans who show up ARMED to Children’s Hospitals to PROTECT THE CHILDREN TM!
Sadly, as much as it’s a joke in this commentary, it is.
We went from Lawrence King and his ring in the 80’s and early 90’s to Epstein in the 90’s and 00’s, and both were publicly and evidently connected to the highest levels of the US government. King’s ring also had mysterious deaths, including the lead investigator and his son being killed in a plane crash.
Good thing Epstein and Ghislaine were caught and all that nonsense is over with. Yep. Definitely not happening anymore.
