Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo

  • theprogressivist @lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    The fuck is crying about biden failing to enforce immigration policy and secure the border but yet at the same time the republican party refused to agree on finding a solution with Dems. This crippled fuck is trying to gaslight us.

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      10 months ago

      Was the shot at Abbott’s disability really necessary? He’s an awful enough person that surely you can find something else to slam besides that

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        Nah. Tolerance and respect is a peace treaty, and he violates it every time he opens his mouth or holds a pen. He doesn’t get to benefit from the same grace he maliciously refuses to give others.

        He’s the only guy in a wheelchair I’d advocate for pushing the damn thing over and running away.

            • chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              No worries; I saw it once and it stuck with me. For an ms paint drawing it’s pretty powerful. I do have one small issue with it, which is that it doesn’t explicitly state that it is not a bad thing to have that trait. Calling someone disabled as an insult implies that being disabled is bad, which I fundamentally disagree with. It’s not because I ‘don’t want to upset anyone’ – it’s because I completely disagree with the implication, and I think the implication is directly damaging to us as a society.

              I’d much rather insult someone because they’re a neo-fascist who deserves to find Lego on their bathroom floor with their foot at 1am when they only went for a piss and now the pain and adrenaline has jolted them awake and they won’t sleep until at least 4am… for the rest of their life.

  • dhork@lemmy.world
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    Article 1, clause 10, section 3:

    No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

    Abbott is literally calling these migrants an invasion force, like an army or something, looking to overthrow the government. I think he’s stretching things there. Texas is not getting invaded, at least in the sense that the clause refers to.

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    10 months ago

    But the National Guard is under Federal chain of command, so Pentagon can activate the Texas National Guard right out from under Abbott. Which honestly is probably exactly what Abbott wants so he can roll around whinging about the big mean Federal government usurping the state’s resources.

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      Under normal circumstances, the National Guard is under the authority of the Governor. There are times when Guard members can be activated to federal service, Title 10. I don’t remember the details, but thats the jist of it. Feds could maybe come up with a reason to activate all of the Texas guard just to fuck with Abbott.

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      The Texas National Guard, not the federal national guard. Or at least thats my understanding.

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        It’s the part of the USA national guard that is based in Texas. Everything about them ultimately answers to the USDOD, not the governor of Texas.

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        10 months ago

        Doesn’t matter. Part of the deal is that the president can order a state national guard to be federalized. Now, if the CO and command staff refused that order… that’s a whole different can of worms, and could be construed as the start of an actual rebellion.

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          Rebellion? No. National Guard troops all want to go home every night. All the DOD has to do is court martial any CO who refuses for dereliction of duty. No one in the Guard is going to risk their pension.

          This is nowhere close to a “Civil War”.

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            That’s also assuming the court martial doesn’t end with corporal punishment. Subsequent to wanting to go home every night is wanting to go home, period, and while I’m sure a few are buying the bullshit Abbots selling, I’m willing to bet that most won’t exchange bullets over it

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              These are he-man tough guys in the Guard. They would be willing to go to jail (to prove they’re tough) before they would want to lose their pension.

              Just go for the benefits and pension and they’ll fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

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    Mr Abbott further invoked his own state’s “constitutional authority to defend and protect itself” for continuing to block federal agents from the border.

    “That authority is the supreme law of the land and supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary,” he added.

    Source

    I’m sorry, what?

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    This is bullshit posturing. He is a coward and he will back down. I don’t buy this will lead to civil war for a minute. Especially not when they could get Trump in office legitimately.

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      Legitimately? That guy can’t legitimately be anywhere but prison after using fake electors. If we say the president is immune, which is bs then he should be in prison for sharing classified information to non clearenced individuals and he has admitted to it on tape… Legitimately he has one place. Life in Prison, or the death penalty as an enemy of the state. Anyone who thinks Snowden is worse than Trump (which last I checked Snowden is listed as an enemy of the state, which did not require a conviction) is a fool.

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      10 months ago

      Burn it down, no reconstruction this time. That was one of the biggest mistakes post-civil war.

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      10 months ago

      He just wants Biden to federalize the national guard so he can whine about Biden being a dictator.
      Let’s hope he doesn’t fuck up and get anyone killed while he’s playing with fire.

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      Sherman stopped too soon. He should have gone down to Austin and headed east then north until he hit D.C. He should have left no building standing and no crops growing. Then every confederate leader should have hanged by the neck until dead.

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        I’m assuming that you have never lived in the rural South. The people who disproportionately suffer from the impact of the Civil War and reconstruction are poor and black.

        I’m with you on hanging traitors, but a more devastated South would not have been good for anyone.

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          Well they let the rich white people keep power. Of course they legislated the burden onto other people, but it literally never had to be that way, it wasn’t a foregone conclusion.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      The people in charge of “find out” are Democrats. There is no “find out” phase.

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      10 months ago

      Abbott is a serious piece of shit, but Rule 6:

      "No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning.

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      Abbott is already ignoring SCOTUS; what makes you think he’d listen to a court’s definition of “invasion”?

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        The point is if Abbott is really going to stick this whole path.

        Abbott is going to do what he’s going to do. He’s just digging a hole deeper and deeper for himself and for his State.

        Abbott’s statement indicates that the President is violating (insert a lot of stuff) but Abbott has not made that argument successfully in court. The courts have not sided with him on this point. Which is why he’s trying to do this unilateral stuff and mentioning “compact” and what have you. None of it has legal standing and he knows it.

        Good example in his citation of Arizona v. United States, Abbott is not quoting the majority opinion. He is quoting the dissenting opinion, you know the one that the Court as a whole DID NOT go with. And he’s using Scalia’s conceptualization of Art. I § 10 C. 3 which no one else on the Court agreed with. Abbott is using legal arguments that are not legal arguments, they are the opinion of a single justice. That’s how incredibly shoddy the ground is on which he is placing his argument. The Governor of Texas is just randomly selecting opinions from Justices, and ones that were not the majority opinion, to make his case.

        Even more so, Ted Cruz is in the Senate trying to get a bill passed that will legitimize some of what Abbott is doing. Abbott’s current argument would be like him pointing to that bill and saying “Well Congress purposed it! It didn’t pass and become law, but they purposed it, so I’m allowed to do (insert whatever).” Like he talks a lot of law in his statement, but none of it is actual legal arguments. That really the thing I think a lot of people are forgetting here. Abbott for lack of a better term, it quite literally just yanking shit form his ass and calling it law of the land.

        The United States is fully aware that Texas has no leg to stand on, so the US is more than willing to give Texas as much rope as they feel they need to hang themselves with. The litigation costs are already skyrocketing for Texas and I guess Abbott and Texas as a whole is feeling okay to spend another billion losing in court.

        So Abbott can continue to play this game if he feels so inclined, but it’s all losses and litigation bills up ahead. He doesn’t have a legal argument and the fact that Senator Cruz is trying so hard to “help him out” is evidence that Abbott has nothing.

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        14th amendment. He can obey the court, or he can be declared an insurrectionist, and unqualified to hold any public office.

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      Have you met our court system?

      We ignored the ferdalist society for too long and theyve captured wide swaths of our judicial system.

      Even if he loses every step of the way up to the SC, you really think the SC won’t go along with this?

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    Abbot is full of shit, as always.

    From his letter:

    Biden has ignored Texas demand that he perform his constitutional duties…thosnrefusalbtonprotect the States has inflicted unprecedented harm on the People alll across the United States>

    No proof of damage except the ‘I dont like brown people’ that’s typical of republicans. I don’t recall Texas saying shit when Trump abandoned his constitutional duties to promote the general welfare of the public and let large swaths of Americans die to covid, just because he didn’t want to hurt his election chances. Pretty sure that’s precedent, though Abbot claims Biden’s damage is unprecedented.

    This whole document is to rattle supporters into a frenzy. Fuck Abbot.