• Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip
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      I bought a laptop with a Swedish keyboard since I’ll be studying there for a few years. It’s a learning curve for sure and this face is accurate

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        I once had a laptop with (I think) Swedish kb (that I bought during my studies in Latvia), but it wasn’t this loaded. Judging by the comments, this seems to be a mixed Scandinavian kb layout, for multiple languages.

        • Swuden@lemmy.world
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          This is called Nordic layout. I believe it’s demographic is Norway, Denmark, and Sweden (maybe Finland also).

  • ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works
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    How do you pronounce that letter? There’s a Danish band I’ve been getting into lately, MØL, but I don’t know how to say it. I’ve been saying “mole” in my head, but I doubt that’s right. It seems to get romanized as “oe” so would it be pronounced “mo-el”?

    • cosmicrookie@lemmy.worldOP
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      Basically its the sound you make just before puking, just without the gargling. Do a video search to confirm

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      The Ø is pronounced as eg. the vowel sound in “learn” or the vowel sound in “bird”.

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        “Learn” and “bird” are pronounced very differently depending on the accent of English. Wiktionary has “learn” RP pronunciation listed as lɜːn and American as lɝn, although personally I don’t believe in ɝ so I would write it as lɹn and bɹd.

        Slight rant about American English IPA, but Wiktionary even has American “bird” listed as bɜɹd, which is frankly ridiculous. Say bɜɹd out loud and it sounds absolutely insane. Be’rd. Nobody says bɜɹd, it’s gotta be bɹd. English spelling treats R as a consonant, but American English functionally treats it like a vowel. If we spelled with R the same way it’s pronounced, it would be brd, lrn, teachr, wrking, etc. Not suggesting a spelling reform, because the current system works so well for uniting different accents of English, but it seriously bugs me when people talk about how American R (ɹ) is a consonant. It’s not!

        • bent@feddit.dk
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          In Norwegian we’ll sometimes write burn as børn in very informal settings or for fun so that’s my go to example :-)

    • Glitterbomb@lemmy.world
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      The musician MØ was asked how to pronounce her stage name once, and she pointed out its just her initials (Marie Ørsted) so there’s not really a right pronunciation to MØ.

      I still don’t have a clue how Ø is pronounced, like in Ørsted.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Ok I’m probably the idiot here, but why not just make one key umlauts, and one for both directions of apostrophe, and then make it a key combo with the standard vowel?

      Like how shift+a = A, it would be umlaut+a = ä, and shift+umlaut+a = Ä?

      How do the real keys (pic) even work?

      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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        Swiss here, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

        In all seriousness; it’s for german, french and italian. Guess it was just determined to use the limited keys more effieciently in typing. And some are combinators and 9 of 10 people don’t know which or what or how.

        https://kbdlayout.info/KBDSG/

        Ah, btw, we can only type uppercase ÄÖÜ via capslock.

      • NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I’m guessing (not sure) that AltGr, visible in the picture, switches between the two options like Shift would. Shift still switches case.

        I think the main reason they didn’t make an umlaut modifier is that ä is considered a distinct letter from a. It would be like asking why have a key for w (“double u”) when it could have been typed as uu. Not a perfect analogy but the best I can think of right now.

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    This is because someone can’t be arsed to make a dedicated Norwegian/Swedish/Danish keyboard. Norway and Denmark uses æ/ø/å. But ofc not the same key position. Sweden ä/ö/å. The same goes for several of the other keys. What they type depends on language used

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    As someone who isn’t clued up on Nordic languages and has no idea how any of this is supposed to be pronounced, my brain just went to the overtones for help

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      Æ = Like the A in (American) “asshole”
      Å = Like the A in (British) “awful”.
      Ø = Like the U in (American) “Ugly”.

      As a Scandinavian, one of my biggest pet peeves is when someone uses Ø instead of O because they think it looks cool. Sure, whatever, but it makes reading it really insufferable. Imagine if someone typed your name as UnduBrani and expected you to pronounce it the same while not tripping over decades of reading practice.

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        Ø = Like the U in “Ugly”.

        Not like German Ö? Or French “eu” as in l’heur or l’Europe? I can’t seem to find any English words with the sound I’m thinking of though. In some dialects “curry” might possibly be approximated as [körri] but that’s not very helpful… (Coincidentally, Ö is also the face I made when I read this)

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          Your examples are more close for sure imo. The poster above must be from some other Scandinavian country than my own, bc I can’t make that make sense at all.

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          Yes. From my knowledge of danish:
          Æ: Not pronounced.
          Ø: Similar to Norwegian.
          Å: Similar to Norwegian, except you need to swallow a whole potato while saying it.

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          “Øh” is actually how we spell and pronounce the Danish equivalent of “uh” or “uhm”.

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    Different countries have different languages, alphabets and keyboard layouts. Scandinavian countries keyboards are quite commonly produced together because they share most but not all of the letters, symbols and positions. This looks pretty standard to me.

    Edit: As a user from respective country you learn fast to read automatically the position for shared keys before you learn touch typing or looking for an uncommonly used symbol. The real annoyance is when laptop makers switch up key positions because they think they know better.

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      To explain more specifically for those that are, like me, curious but unfamiliar:

      • Top left of each of those keys is the Danish layout
      • Top right is Norwegian
      • Bottom right is Swedish
      • The Å is the same in all three so it can just be by itself
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      It’s a Thinkpad thing. I always use Linux and don’t map them to anything so I don’t really find them useful but maybe they are in windows.