• someacnt_@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I was freaking scared when I saw lots of people in my country was cheering Trump’s ralley. It’s not even the old people, they were in their 20s-30s. If Trump succeeds, I don’t see it going well in my country as well… How do I survive in a fascist country? Sad.

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      6 months ago

      Trump isn’t a fascist, he decentralized a ton of shit while in office, Trudeau is far closer to a fascist than Trump will ever be.

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      6 months ago

      Don’t worry,its’s not just the US. Many 3rd world countries are dealing with the same problem if not worse. Otherwise why would so many migrate to US despite it’s healthcare prices and the growing gap between the wealthy and poor?

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      6 months ago

      So what’s the theory here? Trump convinced one of his zealots to shoot him in the head/ear, potentially or intentionally kill others, and then die?

      As crazy as trump and MAGA are, this is too much.

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      6 months ago

      Did you actually read the article? There are dead and wounded, people being airlifted, blood in the bleachers, etc. You honestly think it’s all staged?

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          It wouldn’t surprise me at all, not one little bit, that when they “find” the shooter…gasp…they’ll be a self proclaimed massive liberal.

          Well again this is kind of jumping to conclusions. There’s really no need to speculate preemptively on such events the very minute they are covered in the news. I feel like it’s more responsible in general to wait and see more details and facts as the situation is investigated.

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              Being skeptical is healthy to a degree but preemptively speculating on stuff with no evidence has a tendency to be “rumor mongering” and do that enough and you get pseudo news like “Some People Think Rally Attack Was Staged” and then the whole “news based on nebulous facts” cycle begins.

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          The shooter is dead, according to reports, along with one spectator, and others wounded, some critically. The bullet clipped Trump’s ear, he claims. There was blood on his ear apparently. If those things are all true it’s hard to see it as a deliberate near miss. It looks very much like someone tried to kill him.

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        If conservatives can whine and bitch about everything being fake news, well sounds like they can dish but they can’t take it.

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          Stooping to their low levels is not helping, rather it just creates a circle of going even lower. Take the moral high ground instead and be the better person.

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        I think if it was strong enough to bloody his ear like that then a few centimeters difference could potentially have done very serious damage.

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          Is it possible that it could be a direct hit on the side of his head with something like a paintball gun or something stronger than that but not quite enough to do fatal damage? I have no experience with guns of any kind, genuinely wondering.

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          6 months ago

          trump has the thickest skull the very best they say they tell me they say donald your skull, and these are world class doctors the very best they say donald your skull its so thick you have the thickest skull it could stop a bullet and it could believe me it could thats what they tell me i dont know if thats true but hey

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    This is what you get from that rhetoric. Trump has been inviting it for a while. You have the Heritage Foundation, his Brain Trust, telling us that if we don’t sit down and submit we will be put down forcibly. Well this is what you get Donnie.

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      6 months ago

      Are you kidding? The only things in this universe capable of superluminal speeds are a good rumor and merchandising opportunities

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          That’s probably why being a crown prince in medieval times was more hazardous than a bering strait crab fisherman running for president of the United States

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      Yep, the person who did this is an idiot. They don’t realize all they did was help his cause and give him that much stronger of a chance of winning presidency.

      I mean, they probably don’t realize anything anymore given that they had bullets actually go through them.

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          Literally true, Trump was handed the best PR on a silver platter, and even if he croaked his replacement has a sure win.

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        Liberals still believe in Great Man Theory.

        If he died, another would take his place and wins for sure as revenge.

        Now that he lived, he has excellent PR.

        Biden is constantly taking Ls with his voterbase, like pursuance of Genocide and general brain melting.

        Trump is constantly on the rise with his voterbase.

        This is why Adventurism doesn’t work, and why Leftists need to join an org like PSL and work towards building dual power.

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          Sure but his replacement wouldn’t be him, so at least some harm would have been avoided that way, but you’re right. It would have been much better if this never happened.

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            Yes and no. We have no crystal ball, ultimately the material conditions for fascism are still present in the US, and they will not go away even with 10 straight DNC victories. America is a dying Empire, so reactionary thinking, trying to turn the clock back, is on the rise.

            Leftism must become the status quo to survive fascism.

            There would be some harm reduction, yes, and I would have probably celebrated had Trump been popped, but his replacement would be just as bad, merely delayed.

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    Seems appropriate to drop this here:

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire

    On February 27, 1933, the German parliament (Reichstag) building burned down. The Nazi leadership and its coalition partners used the fire to claim that Communists were planning a violent uprising. They claimed that emergency legislation was needed to prevent this. The resulting act, commonly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, abolished a number of constitutional protections and paved the way for Nazi dictatorship.

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    6 months ago

    There are moments in history that completely change the course of events for decades to come. We just witnessed literal inches between two possibly extremely different futures. Very strange feeling.

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      As much as I loathe the guy, I think we all dodged a bullet.

      If he died of natural causes last month I don’t think the MAGAts would have rallied behind Desantis, or whomever got the nomination. I’m not saying they wouldn’t have voted for them, just that the excitement wouldn’t be there.

      If this has succeeded, the supporters would have transferred and been even more pumped up. And sympathy from those weird fuck undecideds could make the difference, not just in the presidency, but both chambers of Congress, and for their policy goals too.

      Riding the wake of an assassination the draconian shit they would push through could have been far worse than anything Trump would have been able to accomplish in a second term.

      Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

      It sucks that this is boosting his chances in November. But a martyr, a new figurehead, and a more energized base could have been far worse.

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        Take civil rights legislation in the 60s; a lot of what LBJ accomplished was credited to the national feeling after the Kennedy assassination. Would JFK have been able to accomplish all that if he had served eight years with public sentiment toward civil rights being divided?

        I think the same thing about the Apollo program. Kennedy gave that speech and then died, and now not only did we have to beat the Russians we had to do it for a beloved slain president.

        There’s also an episode of Red Dwarf where they go back in time and convince Kennedy to be the second shooter on the grassy knoll, because his survival would have started WWIII.