I never paid much attention to his debates, but from what little snippets I’ve seen, along with the “Prove Me Wrong” schtick seems to indicate he already decided he was right and others were wrong.

There’s plenty of rhetoric and memes already, I’d like to avoid more rhetoric and memes, and I ask this question with genuine curiosity and earnest desire for learning and understanding.

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    He was never in it for personal growth he was in it for financial gains. He was a mere grifter, his opinions were for sale. There is a lot of money in right wing grifting when you reach his level of notoriety. His personal beliefs conveniently always pointed in the direction of money. Worth about $12m when he was executed. He believed in his bank accounts.

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    I am also interested in this.

    I guess that most people wouldn’t really know, because who with a sound mind would like to spend time listening to garbage being produced by right wing grifters. Most of us just assume they are trolls and cannot have their minds changed, and we are right in this assumption most of the time, I would say.

    The only right wing person I have ever heard to actually question his own beliefs is Jordan Peterson during the Žižek debate. That’s it. And it is probably because Peterson isn’t really a troll or a grifter, he is just endlessly confused and ignorant and angry. I can’t think of a single other case. And I would assume the same goes for Kirk. Everything I have ever heard about this guy is absolutely abominable.

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    No. He operates as an Evangelical Apologist does. He makes arguments that sound logical and convincing enough, as long as you don’t think about or look into them that much.

    I think at Stamford Cambridge recently his whole argument against gay marriage was completely torn down, and he finally just said, he simply didn’t like it. I’ll look for the video.

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      Leviticus 18:26 is the argument used against homosexuality, for it says (using YLT) “And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it [is].”

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      He changed his mind to agree with Catholics about the Blessed Virgin Mary. That’s rare for an Evangelical.

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        By “properly” you seem to mean “giving me the answer I wanted even if it’s wrong, without any evidence to support it”.

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          “properly” meaning avoiding meme answers and rhetoric like many other commenters have done, i.e.:

          • Once and the message stuck with him for the rest of his life.
          • Who cares? He’s dead now.
          • I heard he started leaning left shortly before his death.
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              Lying isn’t the issue here. “He’s dead, who cares?” does absolutely nothing to answer my question.

              Jokes about his death (leaning left, “once for the rest of his life”) does absolutely nothing to answer my question.

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    The best thing that could possibly come of his death is if nobody ever spoke of him or thought of him again. These people’s power is entirely derived from people talking about them. If it continues long past their death, they may as well be immortal.

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      The funny thing is, he will be completely forgotten in a month, even by his putative supporters.

      Who’s going around sad that Rush Limbaugh is dead?

      He’s just useful to their sadistic cause. That’s it. No one is even sad that Charlie’s dead — but they are absolutely gleeful at the idea of attacking anyone left of Reagan in “revenge.”

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    A political debate is intended to convince voters that your policies are the right decision. Not that they are correct in a factual sense.

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    He started noticing what the Israeli government was doing, and talked about it on the likes of Megyn Kelly’s show, Tucker Carlson’s show, and some others. This happened despite him being a staunch advocate for what was happening in Palestine (and the people thereof dying at the hands of the fake Khazar Jews, of which I’m a partial Khazar who doesn’t practice an Abrahamic religion). Let’s also mention the fact he was Calvary Chappel, and that he took the Mark of the Beast on the right hand (he obeyed the Pope, despite not being Catholic, though following what Rome’s bishop wanted). Not to mention too, while it’s absolutely abhorrent what happened to him, he had some views that would’ve gotten him sent to the lake of fire anyway (due to taking the Mark as I described).

    This is all despite the fact he engaged in Socratic debate.

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      All of these right-wing grifters are susceptible to Zeitgeist shifts as they are paid for the reach of their propaganda so when it became untenable to defend Israel even to a right-wing audience Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk pivoted. Ben Shapiro didn’t and lost his audience.

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        Defending Israel was always the Catholic and Jesuit thing to do. They stopped doing that, and started gaining followers as a result, likely so people don’t notice the Jesuit Superior General, currently Arturo Sosa from Venezuela, pulling the strings on them too.

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      What do you mean obeyed the Pope? You realize I’ve of his last actions was to donate the popemobile as an aid vehicle for Gaza

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        If he was really going to do it, it wouldn’t be a Popemobile, as Unum Sanctum would be enforced on the Palestinians. They happened to be of the line of Jacob… not the Khazars as claimed by the mainstream.

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            We’ve been controlled by these Catholic interests since at least 1302, and in the 21st century, we’ve been controlled by the Pope through the Bull I mentioned. November 18, 1302 was the day we lost freedom of religion all over the world.

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              The holy Roman empire fell centuries ago. The power it held was distributed to organizations we generally refer to as “the West”

              The Pope has immense power… But soft power. The only army they can move is the Swiss guard

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        My producer (Neigsendoig, a.k.a. Sendo) and I had done some cursory numerology on it as well (we’re both numerologists by hobby), and our souls felt like they sank to the bottom of the ocean once we realized who planned it out.

        I’d be happy to DM that if you’re interested.

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          I’m going to hold your hand while I say this, and I mean it with all love and sincerity. Have you been to a doctor recently? You sound schizophrenic.

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            So you’re saying I have a Vitamin B3 deficiency, which I can easily fix? That sounds disingenuous, especially since Sendo and I believed the numbers don’t lie, as they say in the numerology community.

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            Sendo and I are two different people, as I was his former editor for his YouTube channel, CoculesNation. He had since gone on to edit his own videos after I stopped editing in order to focus on different things surrounding Cocules Media.