“Right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you’ll get canceled,” Chappelle told an audience of 6,000, according to The New York Times. “I don’t know if that’s true, but I’m gonna find out.” He then added, “It’s easier to talk here than it is in America.”
I love your comedy Dave, but the sell-out you’ve become invalidates your position as a truth-teller right when America needs you the most. You built your career on raw talent and hard work without bowing to your masters at Comedy Central, and you don’t need to do this either. If you ever manage to un-sew your lips from the royal prince’s gold-shitting anus, please come back to us.
Lol that’d be stupid. Trump can’t do anything while he’s off U.S soil
That’s not what free speech is. The government has never attacked this Chapelle for his speech.
His bigoted shit just isn’t funny to GenZ and they don’t mind telling him.
It’s our right to Freedom of Association he has an issue with.
I used to love chapel. Now not so much. He drank the Joe Rogan kool-aid
He also sent strong antivax messages to black Americans. I liked his comedy but he got addicted to money and is a disappointing human.
is a disappointing human.
He was always a disappointing human.
He just used to be a funny disappointing human.
Now he’s a sad, disappointing human.
Why always?
Things can be both funny and disappointing. He found disappointing things to say and made them funny with observation; it was his schtick, his only schtick. He was ‘edgy’ before edgy was hot. Low-effort humor, still funny to an extent, but a lot of people used it as a bar for their own disappointing observations, it bred acceptance of hate and racism because they thought funny == good.
Some people cannot separate their comedy/actions from what they should and should not do in real life. It enabled the “settle down it’s just a joke BS”. They idolized him; he became wealthy and a conservative mouthpiece.
This
He’s right. Everyone here is angry that KSA is a fascist regime, and the most important speech in the world is being able to make Winnie the Pooh references.
That comedians are able to go to somewhere they have the freedom to joke about America is more freedom for relevant/funny material. You can have enough comedy material without resorting to joking about the comedy club owner’s dismemberment murder accusations, and guess what, if you did, you’d be thrown out (or worse) of “land of the free” clubs too.
I don’t understand how for the last ten years this guy has been allowed to just associate with other comics like he’s not a fucking pariah.
Because comics are whores
Comics had give through a lot of cancellations and were starting to pull together. So, when Chappelle started being anti-trans, the comedy community was already primed to fight back.
Also, Chappelle seems like a generous comedian in bringing people up. So, he probably has deep roots in the comedy community.
We assume the personas we see on the screen are a representation of the people they really are. If we really saw the truth behind our media we would feel hollow and sad and empty and realize how little substance there actually is in the world, so on some level we choose to believe what we already know to be untrue, because we prefer it this way.
You can’t kayfabe away the actual association. They chose to appear on screen with the guy. That’s not in-character, that is a professional decision.
Or are you saying, “Chappelle is just pretending to be a heel, actually he hates autocrats and loves trans people?”
I’m saying that backstage, they are different people from the ones we think, both good and bad, and who those people are I cannot say, I just know from limited exposure to celebrity that reality as we think we see it is manufactured.
A lot of people you could never imagine being in the same room together will have dinner together or hang out and chill and it’s absolutely mind-blowing the first time you see it and realize what’s going on.
I’m not saying the performances of people like Chappelle aren’t sometimes vile and dangerous, it’s still a professional decision to “be that person” on stage, oftentimes it’s a well-planned professional decision involving agents, long-term plotlines and levels of social manipulation that we like to think we won’t fall for.
My issue (at the moment) isn’t with Chappelle but rather with those who enable, endorse, and platform him. Those who are happier drawing a paycheque than acting with integrity. It does not matter whether the bad things he does are done in character. It does not matter if the people who appear on-screen with him despise him off-screen.
Aw man Bill Burr went too? Goddammit.
I was shocked as well. But I have to admit, to a certain extent Bill Burr has a point. Not everyone in that country is part of the Royal family and part of the oppression. And creating a doorway by introducing Western influences most especially Western comedy could conceivably bridge a gap there. However anybody criticizing the United States for attacks on freedom of speech while praising a place like Saudi Arabia needs to go fuck a horse.
Burr and Chapelle and Krusty the Clown are all there because they drove a dumptruckof money to their house. Their not made of stone.
Canyonerooooooooooo!
The crown are making big adult playgrounds for rich people so they can divest themselves of the financial road-to-nowhere that is oil. There’s no morality in this, their people will still be deeply oppressed and no amount of witticisms will change that.
I don’t even really judge Burr too harshly here, but the excuse is paper thin. I’d rather he just not give one and make a joke about how many millions he can’t make cussing out hecklers in Tucson.
I don’t disagree entirely and I’m sure they got a fat check out of it but you’re not going to shit talk SA in SA without getting your head cut off
Daily reminder that Burr was never a progressive or ally to leftism, or even humanity broadly.
We just all really loved when he directed his performance against the people who deserve it the most, so that’s what we choose to remember.
Couldn’t have said it better
Daily reminder anyone who makes appeal to collective moralism while denigrating a specific individual is almost invariably an intolerable cunt.
Also Bill Burr is a Legend
Also Bill Burr is a Legend
meh.
He has his weak points. His podcasts during lockdowns quickly degraded to one hour of him watching sports on TV.
Isn’t he the piece of shit that was enjoying that someone that interrupted his show because of the shit he was saying, got heavily beaten up by security?
He referenced the Charlie Kirk situation. He didn’t say anything about Charlie Kirk. He’s nothing more than a rightwing propagandist these days.
Well that’s the same thing Kimmel did, and they (un)fired him
Who?
I’ll bet ya a whole dollar that he doesn’t know who Jamal Khashoggi was.
A whole dollar? That’ll buy groceries for a week!
Jim Jefferies, Jimmy Carr, Kevin Hart, Pete Davidson… I was surprised to see these names on the lineup, what a bunch of sellouts.
This is from their contracts (found on https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-30/riyadh-comedy-festival-begins-with-pete-davidson-bill-burr/105833686):
Pete Davison is just mind blowing. He can’t even make jokes about how SA murdered his Jewish dad, while he sucks the dick of the men who murdered his dad
Who was his dad?
“Peter Michael Davidson was born on November 16, 1993 in the Staten Island borough of New York City to parents Amy (née Waters) and Scott Matthew Davidson. Scott was a New York City firefighter for Ladder 118 who died in service during the September 11th attacks, along with the rest of his unit.”
Ah ok. I thought he might have been a reporter who fell a foul of the kingdom.
Jimmy Carr isn’t a surprise.
Jimmy is a cunt. Self admitted.
Yup, that guy just looooves the money. At least he openly admits it in his performances.
when has Jimmy Carr ever been a surprise?
Do jump scares count as surprises? If so, then frequently.
Makes it so easy to find the people who don’t give a fuck about women when they suck the Saudi teats so openly
Counterpoint: If America gave a fuck about women it
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Wouldn’t have bought oil from a repressive regime that suppressed woman’s rights for decades and continues to do so.
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Elected a pedophile rapist who engaged in the trafficking of girls.
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Mourned and idolized a man who spread a religiously driven message that women should submit to men.
Unless you’re saying supporting either nation implies a lack of support for women. Which would be an undoubtedly reasonable position.
I am intimately familiar with the ongoing hatred for women among Americans. Supreme Court rulings, legislative action, and modern campaigns for a return to lives of drudgery and involuntary childbearing are not even trying to sugarcoat the fact that we are considered lesser beings, despite being necessary for population growth.
Perhaps we can have a slightly more granular system than giving a fuck, yes/no, 1 or 0, black and white. May I suggest perhaps we count how many fucks a country has to give for women? On that scale, we would properly see that the US gives far, far more fucks about women than Saudi Arabia. I’ve been there. Do not casually equate the two.
Yes we can have a granular system but then do we acknowledge:
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Saudi Arabia has made more progress in the right direction (though dictator driven) while the US has elected a rapist, pedophile trafficker of girls who is keen on undoing progress on woman’s rights. One who was elected by millions of voters which suggests that many agree with his worldview.
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That neither country respects women, even if one has developed more protections overall.
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Whether your god is Capitalism or a religious deity, women are seen as having less value (monerarily or spiritually).
Please don’t oversimplify my efforts to bring nuance to this discussion. Making a simple ‘Saudi Arabia is worse than the US’ statement without appropriate context opens the door to two inhumane outcomes that I cannot tolerate.
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The dehumanization of people in Saudi Arabia for having perceivably less progressive values. We can disagree with people and their value system without forgetting their humanity. Unfortunately such arguments were used during the colonial era by Western powers to justify inumerable immoral acts.
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The dismissal of challenges faced by women in the US because women in other nations ‘have it worse’.
So while I firmly believe both countries are in the category of ‘Needs Improvement’ I am wary of reductive arguments being used to materially worsen conditions for women both here and there.
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This was harsh. Extremely funny but also harsh
Not wrong though
I invite you to stay there, Mr. Chappelle.
So what did he actually say?
“Right now in America, they say that if you talk about Charlie Kirk, that you’ll get canceled,” Chappelle told an audience of 6,000, according to The New York Times. “I don’t know if that’s true, but I’m gonna find out.” He then added, “It’s easier to talk here than it is in America.”
Well, that sounds… accurate. Doesn’t excuse the other things he’s said, but… yea.
Edit: I stand by the first part of my comment. I was not paying enough attention to the second half (“it’s easier to talk here…”). That part, not so much.
Did you see the contract he signed? “Easier to talk here” is just factually incorrect.
If you’re looking for a factually correct comic, Carlin’s dead.
Sorry to tell you but Carlin was also part of “the club” He was way too rich to be one of us, even if he made money pretending to be.
Where in your mind is this hard bright line
Hes the one who created the concept, the hard right line was on him to define.
But if you’re asking for my own opinion, when you’re a double digit millionaire (much richer with inflation) whose job it is to perform for sold out audiences, you’re no longer one of the little people
Say what you will about repression of free speech in Saudi Arabia (and there is a lot that can be said), at least with a contract you know where the line is. The royal family knows they’re not proponents of free speech.
America is in that awkward teenage phase of not knowing who they are right now, leaving a lot of ambiguity around free speech.
I appreciate Saudi Arabia’s clarity. Even if they are objectively wrong. America just seems self-righteously confused, if such a state even exists.
I mean, not really. If he really thinks it’s easier to talk there than here, he should make a bonesaw joke on stage in Riyadh.
Did he actually say anything about Kirk or did he chicken out?
I heard it’ll cost you an arm and a leg to find out.
Is it accurate? Did he criticize the Saudi government?
I wonder how that went over. It’s obviously criticizing America, but really at the expense of SA by saying their free speech is shit. (Which if you think about it violates the terms of the contract someone else posted in this thread.)
Depends on his intonation. It can come across as complimentary depending on which word he emphasized.
“The comedian was one of more than 50 performers participating in the event, which has come under fire for being held in a country which has been accused of human rights violations and an oppressive regime.”
My brother in christ, this is USA. America is currently committing human rights violations and is the definition of an oppressive regime. USA is not the world police anymore and they need to stop pretending like they are.
