Well, they need to make sure the right people are watching the right propaganda.
They lobby both parties, people are just talking about the Trump donations now as he is currently in power
That only covers political donations, not outright payoffs.
Lol, I guess I wont be watching the latest mr beast mukbang
I’m just going to say it: YouTube really started going to shit when professional, monetized YouTubers started becoming a big thing.
I’d like to see folks do more PeerTube instances in the future or something similar grow but there is cost involved that people don’t have with YouTube.
People don’t realize how much shit youtube/google ignores over time, for whatever reasons (but mostly because it’s cheaper to ignoer I’d guess). With most major consumer VPN providers, this is very easy to detect. Adblockers are easy to detect. Tampering with the website structure? Believe it or not, quite easy to detect when someone hide a component or change a title or a button.
If they decided to seriously get after people that circumvent geofencing, people that block ads, people that change the interface to their liking, or people that plainly use alternative websites, they could easily. And it would require far less effort on their end to keep things complicated than it would require on our end to keep things working at an acceptable level.
Only kind of true.
If they did implement all those measures, all you do is launch a puppet browser rendered off screen and scrape the content you want. This could work for any site and it is impossible for anyone to detect.
For ads, as a nuclear option, you can detect when they occur and black the stream out.
I would personally do this if left with no other option.
Cue detection of “realistic” human activity on the UI and preventing streaming if the server determine this activity does not match a human enough pattern.
I’m exaggerating on that one, but… that’s not even that implausible these days.
My point was, dancing this dance with “big website”, whoever it is, will always be an endless uphill battle.
They can’t do that because of accessibility reasons. If they did that, a disabled person has grounds to sue them for proper aria hints & controls.
It doesn’t matter what kind of content it is, either. It must be made accessible.
Uh. I don’t know how it is on the other side of the ocean, but around here, it’s a nice goal, but there’s much more care going into making messes than implementing accessible websites. Even official government services sometimes just barely slaps an “accessibility conformity: partial/none” and keep going on.
I’m not sure having an accessible web is enough to overcome the thirst for ad money and control.
Sometimes I do get YouTube telling me that I need to disable my adblocker to access a video, so they do try to block that stuff (though I suspect that the infrequency with which this happens combined with the fact that not everyone does experience it when some people do report this happening suggests that they’re just testing methods of detection and blocking)
Usually when it happens, I just go into my Ublock settings and update stuff. I can’t remember that ever not working. It feels like a low-key arms race, in a cold-war kind of way
i use vorapis v3 cause they fucked with the video player.
NewPipe
Revanced.
NewPipe.
Honestly, Newpipe gets blocked more often than just using browser. Probably because of they detected API calls or something.
The Newpipe community is pretty big so even if it is blocked it is temporary
I don’t think NewPipe uses yt’s API. yt-dlp certainly doesn’t. It’s kinda the whole point of these alternative frontends.
Try pipepipe, haven’t had it blocked ever for the couple yeara I’ve used it
I use it, great app but I have seen my VPN blocked every once in a while. I end up changing IP addresses three or four times before it works again.
That’s a YouTube problem, they block VPN connections for not logged in users
Try Tubular, which is NewPipe plus SponsorBlock which makes the video watching experience even better. :)
Websites have been able to detect VPN usage for a long time.
They’ve been able to detect commercial VPNs for a long time. They’re just starting to care enough to take some action now.
I rolled my own VPN, no issues. Won’t say how because I got my ass beat for recommending it last time.
As someone who uses multiple VPNs daily I have a suggestion. Try to locate a different server and connect to it. See if there’s a drop down menu in your VPN app. Sometimes a particular IP on one of those servers flags websites’ fraud detection. Sometimes I can switch servers on my VPN and refresh the page and it loads just fine.
Excellent advice. It’s a game of cat and mouse (or whack-a-mole, whatever metaphor works…).
Sites that want your data for whatever reason hate VPNs, so they identify exit points and blacklist traffic from them. VPN providers know this so they spin up new exit points with different IP.
Just try a different server. Sometimes it’s a regional ’rights’ issue, so pick another server that is in the same jurisdiction, for instance in the case of streaming.
TOR?
Brb, gonna change the circuit 20 times to find that one exit IP that didn’t get blocked.
Also waiting 10 minutes for the video to load, xD
I think you can change some config thing to have the exit node be in a certain country so it may help? (Thought i am not sure if there is, the last time i configurated anything was for using HTTP), also, i have had a good expirience with the speed on TOR, i am in europe, where are you?
How does this app survive economically?
Labor of love, I suspect
Apps don’t need finances to survive. The creator of the app could be working on it entirely because they want to, and not because they get paid. As far as I know, NewPipe is just a front-end. It doesn’t host anything, and just runs as a client to essentially give a new interfwce to YouTube.
Pipepipe has been more reliable for me, lately.
But who knows how long these alternative front-ends will last? It’s a constant cat and mouse game between volunteers and Google.
Just install Revanced
How on iOS?
Really, if you’ve kept using apple all the way up until now, it’s kinda on you.
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I encounter VPN blocks everywhere frequently. I usually just reroll my selected server until the block goes away
They always could. What appears to be happening is that channels now have the option to turn on “a switch” so that content wont play if a VPN is detected. Most VPN ip addresses are well known, because they arent a secret. Everyone who uses the VPN goes through it.
If you come across the above message, its because the content creator turned it on. I had it come up with “stick to football”. Its the only thing that it comes up with. I just unsubbed and wont watch anymore. Im not turning off my VPN for anyone or anything. Id rather just go with out. I encourage all of you to do the same.
You could probably just record the users ID and it’s IP address. IP addresses that see a lot of different user IDs are either VPNs, companies or universities.
Another thing that only very large companies can do is see the response time and compare packet size from different servers to narrow down your location, effectively defeating the VPN in a lot of cases.
Hypothetically, a specific amount of bytes gets sent to server B, response time indicates it was received 300 miles away which matches the response time of going from Server B to Server A where the user lives.
Of course it’s still important to use a VPN, if only because those big companies don’t want us to.
This…sounds a bit like bs. Can you share a more detailed writeup? At best you could get a radius, but that wouldn’t really be helpful
I imagine they could compile large datasets of ping times and server locations and do some extrapolation. I don’t think it ever goes past a best guess but they’d have an idea (if what this person said actually happens).
Companies dont really need to know where you are. They just need to know where you aren’t. If you are not within a certain threshold of response time to certain cdn servers, then its reasonable to assume that you are outside their contractually obligated broadcast region.
The latency to your VPN server is a constant added to the latency between your VPN server and whatever servers you are connected to. As long as the user’s VPN service doesn’t use different VPN servers for different destinations, it is impossible to determine the location of the user behind the VPN based on latency, and in general it is impossible to determine how far a user is from their VPN server because of varying latency introduced by the user’s own network or by bad infrastructure at the local ISP level. You can only know how far they aren’t based on the speed of light across the surface of the earth.
But, without a VPN, this is a real attack that was proven by a high school student using some quirks of Discord CDNs. Even without using Discord’s CDNs, if somebody wanted to locate web visitors using this technique, they could just rent CDN resources like nearly every big company is doing. Of course, if you have the opportunity to pull this off, you normally have the user’s IP address and don’t care about inferring the location by latency. The reason why it was notable with Discord was because the attacker was not able to obtain the victim’s IP address.
VPNs aren’t hard to detect, especially if you’re using a major service.
100% this, I work in cyber sec and it’s very easy these days for services to detect this.
What about TOR browser?
That’s even easier. The list of exit nodes is public.
Feel sorry for the guy in the datacenter using Netflix on his brake.
using Netflix on his brake.
Offering Xzibit some new ideas
Yo, we heard you like watching Netflix on your break, so we put big screen tvs on your brakes so you can watch Netflix on your brakes while on break.
Must be hard to see all the way down in the foot well.
The “best content” being ip-located ads, probably.
probablyTIL ads are content!
