This one’s probably a question with no answer because the boys’ club are vanishingly unlikely to cast a woman to play Bond.
Her name could be Jaymes Bond. And there is no reason a girl cannot be called James. Nikita is female in most of the world, except Russia. Carrol is a man’s name, and Carol is a woman’s name. Tony can be a man or a woman. Names only have genders because we assign them that trait. If all the guys you ever knew in your life were called “Sophia”, it would be weird for a girl to take that name. A name is just a name, no matter how weird, unique or cool it is, it’s just a name.
Michael Burnham
Jayne Cobb
Willow Ulfgood
Elton John, then still not fully out of the closet, made good use of that, writing a love song titled Nikita, though having the love interest in the video be a blonde woman in a fur hat (presumably to appease the record company).
Well in NTTD, the number 007 was assigned to the Lashana Lynch character named Nomi so “James Bond” is probably not a code name. Otherwise 008 would be “Alex Trevelyan”, etc.
Easier to reassign the designation number.
Just want to say that I think they handled the Nomi thing very well in the movie. They were VERY aware of what the audience reaction would be and played into it. They could have pandered a couple different ways and chose not to
Jane S’Bond
If Disney buys the 007 brand, you can be sure there will be black female James Bond.
and yet that would fit the designation discussion going on. Interesting how you want to turn it in to a racist shitpost instead of discussing it like someone with more than a lonely braincell crying out for attention.
Didn’t expect a strong reaction like that. Then again, I didn’t think it through before hitting send. My bad.
There was a black female 007 in the last film you dimwit. She was bloody good too. I’d be happy for her to be the next bond, but she won’t be.
I haven’t seen it, was James Bond dead or something so his code name got given away?
The number was reassigned because Bond was not in the MI6 at that time, yes.
I didn’t like Ms Lynch as the actor, though. I didn’t respond well to her portrayal and I thought it was just … off. I don’t know.
Sonequa Martin-green makes an excellent cop and a decent zombie-fighter, and I think she’d make an excellent bond if we’re looking to upset the rednecks.
But they’ll probably keep it a stuffy male brit character, so Cilian Murphy or Henry Cavill, but I would have loved to’ve seen Idris Elba get a turn.
Gods, the first time heard Elba get suggested as a possible Bond, I flipped out. Then it eventually reached a point where it was definitely not going to happen, and it made me really not want to see any more Bond movies at all. There’s some actors born to play a role, and if they don’t, it’s kinda horrible. Like, if Pierce Brosnan had never had a chance to be Bond, it would have been a miscarriage of cinematic justice, no matter how the movie actually turned out (I enjoyed his turn personally).
The fact that it’s essentially impossible to have Elba do even a single bond film now ruins the franchise for me
Oh. Totally missed that one. Oops. Haven’t seen the last few films.
There’s already been a black female 007.
Yeah, I just found it. Missed the last movies, so I guess I should check it out.
Would you consider it “woke” or something if they did?
Woke is just a term for human rights that fascist want to take away.
I can see why you ask that. Since I didn’t think that comment though very well, now every downvoter considers me a racist. Fair enough. Should have rewritten it entirely, but it’s too late for that now.
Long and nuanced posts are boring to read while short and snappy ones involve skipping all the important details. Also, swiping away carelessly doesn’t help.
I was mainly thinking about the fact that Disney tends to change things significantly and abruptly. For example, many Star Wars fans were disappointed by the changes, so I thought that 007 fans could face similar disappointments. What those changes actually are do not really matter to me. What matters more is how quickly they happen and how much the direction of the entire series changes.
I don’t use the term “woke” to describe the changes Disney makes, since I prefer to distance myself from the crowd that uses it. Focussing more on the rate of change and its magnitude is more interesting to me.
My instance doesn’t allow downvoting. You’re right, you should have rewritten it. It’s one thing to complain about them doing live/cgi remakes of stuff like Lion King vs skin color or gender of a character.
There are British people who are black and female, so it’s not like it’s unbelievable or something. It also doesn’t help your case that 007 is a frequently reinvented character, albeit with a strong set of tropes to follow.
I’m happy for you that you don’t call things like that “woke”, I guess.
The original 007 wasn’t even true to the books.
I thought you were referring to Disney’s live action remakes, which are ass and way the fuck more sexist, but do have one black woman in them, so congratulations to Rob Marshall.
I have seen some reviews of the live action remakes, and I was not impressed. As a result, nowadays I actively avoid being exposed to those movies.
I doubt Amazon are looking to sell.
Once there was a Mrs. Bond…
James Bond was his actual name.
007 was his code name, and they would replace it when an agent with that designation were to die or retire.
It’s like a fan theory, which explains why James Bond has always been James Bond despite having many different actors portray him.
That doesn’t seem very clever, going around sharing your own name despite being a spy.
Yet Ian Flemming was supposed to use his past experience in British Intelligence to come up with Bond’s novels, so what do I know.
It’s actually standard practice for secret agents to use their real names, as accidentally failing to respond to a pseudonym is one if the easiest ways to blow their cover.
Furthermore, Bond is a secret agent. The fact that he’s a spy who has tons if amazing adventures is not public knowledge, let alone well-known. We the audience know James Bond as a super-popular action hero from a long series of movies, but in his own universe there is nothing particularly special or noteworthy about the name James Bond.
- Mata Hari was Margaretha Geertruida Zelle.
- Fritz Duqesne had at least 30 known aliases.
- Lise de Baissac was primarily known as Irene Brisse but also Odile, Margerite and Adele.
- Even Dušan Popov, who’s allegedly the source for James Bond used in more than one occasion aliases like Duchan, Dusan or Hans: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/record?catid=8204882&catln=6
- Eli Cohen also used a fake Syrian identity because c’mon, you won’t go around with an Israeli name trying to get into the Syrian government.
I know that double agents like Richard Sorge or Aldrich Ames would use their actual identities, but fake identities or even using the names of deceased people is very common.
Also, in the Bond universe a LOT of people seem to know who he is, it’s not public knowledge per se, but like it seems that all major intelligence services have heard of him and also anybody with power and connections and ill-intent.
He kinda operates like a really weird form of special forces than a spy half the time.
He wasn’t really a good spy. 🤷♂️
But you have heard of him! Which eh… ya actually maybe you’ve a point there.
Archer moment
Correct. This did in fact happen in No Time to Die.
In one story I read, all holders of the 007 designation were automatically called Bond, but idr if their first name became James. It definitely included women either way.
Added: I checked and she used Jean Bond while working as 007. I’m guessing that all the female 007’s did that but I’m not sure. That story is pretty nuts tbh.
