Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Johnson and Johnson, accusing the pharmaceutical company of failing to warn consumers about the risk of taking Tylenol while pregnant.
This lawsuit, the first of its kind from a state government, comes a month after President Donald Trump and U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. announced updated guidance discouraging pregnant women from taking acetaminophen, citing it as a possible cause of autism. The announcement set off a wave of controversy in the health care community, and confusion among pregnant women unsure how they should manage fever and pain during pregnancy.
I hope somebody documents every penny Texas wastes on this frivolous crap.
More distractions…
I got a feeling of recognising a potential Eco’s ur-fascism element here, since probably the people that fuel these conspiracy theories have a different idea of what autism really is given their obsesion with this particular issue: someone that behaves not like us or incapable of blend in as we consider the standard society… also probably those pharmaceutical companies do not fund those politicians
We’re well beyond Eco’s idea of Ur-fascism (AKA nascent fascism). Shit ain’t nascent anymore.
Holy fuck, facts don’t care about your feelings has turned into let’s litigate on my feelings
My feelings don’t care about your facts!
Can’t wait for this to backfire hilariously
Are fucking insane? How on earth do they expect to actually win this lawsuit?
They’re trying to sue J&J, too. One of the largest corporations in the world. Curious to see where it’ll go. Just seems like all it’ll do is piss off his donors.
Tylenol is made by Kenvue, an independant company spun off by J&J in 2022.
They don’t. It’s part flood the zone, part pandering to certain voters. Look what we do for you! A blue state wouldn’t fight for your health like this!
Nothing will come of it but it’s a positive distraction from the extraction of wealth that is currently happening.
It’s also a very obvious distraction from
THE EPSTEIN FILES
It is a distraction from the hostile fascist takeover of our country. The Epstein shit is a distraction from that.
Fascism is a systemic issue. It’s a cancer that takes roots when democracy starts failing.
Having the concrete and unsystemic problem of there being probable cause Trump did some very, very bad things looked into properly is a much smaller ask.
However, even that’s an imposibility in today’s world.
I’d love to have a magic cure for fascism. There is one, although it’s undoubtedly very unmagic: Painstakingly dealing with obvious lies and crimes, one at a time. Respecting the Constitution. Having people be truly equal. Especially in the eyes of the law.
Without a thourough dose of said cure, fascism will hide away and get ready to rise back up.
The Epstein shit is one step of a bajillion mile journey. It’s not the first and it’s not the last. But without it, there’s no journey to be had.
It’s not “fascist”, it’s ultracapitalist…
It’s both
As someone on the outside looking in, it is ABSOLUTELY INSANE that this still needs to be explained to people.
Well maybe something will come from it, it might inspire laws that make it harder to sue pharma.
Delusion.
By convincing a jury of normal Americans they’re right.
They could request a bench trial. No jury, just the judge.
Go with the ~98% chance of a conservative judge deciding ? Bold move.
It works for patents, surely it’ll work for lunatic bullshit
Why wouldn’t they? Reality can be anything in Trump’s America.
Honestly they probably expect a settlement to avoid “political trouble.”
This is how recent federal lawsuits ended.
Are the betting markets on how big Tylenol’s donation to trumps library will be?
People have tried in the past and each time it got thrown out because the judges ruled they were full of shit. As recently as 2023, even, from Reuters:
Cote, in a 148-page ruling, found that none of the five expert witnesses proposed by the plaintiffs had offered a sound scientific methodology to support their opinion that Tylenol’s active ingredient, acetaminophen, could cause autism spectrum disorder (ASD) and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
“Instead, the unstructured approach adopted by the plaintiffs’ experts permitted cherry-picking, allowed a results-driven analysis, and obscured the complexities, inconsistencies, and weaknesses in the underlying data,” she wrote.
Wait, so this “Tylenol cause autism” thing existed prior to this year?
It was around in 2022, at least in this iteration, when they consolidated a bunch of cases. The mommy wellness blog machine kicked off hard. Retailers like Walmart were sued too, because people are fucking dumb as rocks.
“Vaccines cause autism” was the hit in 2020
Worst of all is that this probably will end in a settlement where the US government gets to claim they were right in exchange for just a “small” donation to the US government
That’s what colleges and networks were doing for a while, but since Kimmel stood up to them and won BIG, potential victims have been pushing back. Colleges are refusing money with strings, for one thing.
If J&J is smart (and it’s not clear that they are, although they are well-established to be evil), they’ll refuse to settle.
I’m all for it. Let’s have discovery, let’s shine a light on this stupidity.
Exactly. Like Republicans in 2020 wouldn’t bring any election denial claims to court cause the had no actual evidence
But they did bring them to courts. There were over 60 lawsuits and only successfully proved something like 20 fraudulent ballots, in one audit, across all of them. Nearly all of them were thrown out due to a lack of evidence. Pretty sure these are the things that got Rudy disbarred.
There’s always fraudulent ballots, though, and from my understanding, they are always looked into. That stuff is unrelated to the conspiracy theory stuff his team of “lawyers” were pushing out. They would claim things in the media and then never bring them up in court.
You have a lot of faith in a jury system that has historically been terrible at evaluating scientific claims.
Discovery happens well before the jury is seated.
Yes, but the light isn’t really shined for the public until the verdict.
These folks never change their views after a court case disproves something. They just assume some sort of deep state is in bed with “big pharma” - even if acetaminophen is a low cost and not a big money maker.
I’m all for it. Let’s have discovery, let’s shine a light on this stupidity.
We will never get the justice we want through procedure, legal argument and old-guard political players.
We only get the world we want through unified efforts to restructure politics from the ground up. Fuck Texas, let them rot and wallow in dark-ages mythology. While they’re spinning their wheels trying to make shit like phrenology and miasma theory work with modern systems, we can make our own communities shining beacons of reason if we work hard enough together.
Assuming the process functions normally and doesn’t become political theatre.
Excellent joke, good sir!
Texas failing once again at using facts and science. They love to shoot themselves in the foot and blame others for making the gun that shot them.
Your tax dollars at work, Americans
Luckily it’s just Texan taxes in this case
It is hard to believe this is not an onion article. “We just made this up and now we are suing you for not warning people about the shit we just made up”.
I would say “We just made this up in order to sue you because we can’t sue you for not following us”.
I can’t wait for all these bullshit cases to get in front of judges. Some of them already have, and are getting tossed. The media should be covering it much heavier.
The media is fully captured by hard right idealogues.
Where do Americans learn to equate suing someone with winning a lawsuit? USA has the most lax rules on civil lawsuits, anyone can sue anyone.
Respond to the wrong comment?
As are many judges.
God I hope texas eats a big old pharma dick on this one. I feel like they’re just anti women at this point.
yeah, “feel like.”
If there is a civil war, I suspect that Tylenol would be on the side of the Allies & Union. Texans and MAGA will have to use homeopathic remedies to (not) ease their pain.
Just give them opiates or meth for everything, it makes them happy.
I am kinda expecting MAGA army doctrine to consist of hopped up human waves.
Sounds like Russia, hmmm…🤔
Just like the original Nazis
Oh man crunchy tarot card constellations witches are going to be so confused which side to join.
what strain u smokin
some good shit.
I imagine it’ll be the homogeneous fascists vs our diverse, rag tag team of misfits. The witches may not like being shoulder-to-shoulder with J&J, but J&J aren’t the ones who made it so the witches can be accused of terrorism and imprisoned due to being “anti-christian.” So they’ll probably begrudgingly accept it.
They’ll be on the side that they think can make them more money. There are no ethics in corporate America.
OK! Good! FINALLY! Now that they’re pulling this shit, big companies have reason to fight back. I was wondering when Proctor and Gamble and Johnson and Johnson would start campaigning to get these psychos out of office, and this should do it.
Um, the government has been filing frivolous lawsuits against some of the largest companies in the country for the past year. Companies then settle out of court and pay a multi-million dollar
bribesettlement to encourage their mergers to go through. No sign of companies fighting back. If anything, they’re encouraging it by being massive pushovers.Yeah, but this is Texas, not Trump. Paxton doesn’t have anywhere near the same weight to throw around as Trump.
He is a fat fuck, you got that right
Really hope youre right, but I’m not counting those chickens yet
Nah that admits they may have been at fault for something, much better to counter sue and make the people of Texas pay possibly billions of dollars in stupid lawsuits that they will have to look at their government and say what the fuck, we knew that was bogus
Can a state be the defendant in an anti-slapp case?
I’m not sure, I’m sure every state is different too. May have to get around the sovereign immunity as well. It isn’t impossible, as their are usually clauses that bypass it but Texas may have very few
Don’t count on companies fighting back. Something tells me that, the moment a company actually fights the govt, they’ll magically remember that said companies are actually violating several state and federal regulations and laws
